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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Chris Duffin gets hurt but still finishes

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    Chris Duffin competed yesterday and got hurt squating but came back and finished the meet. Incrediable.
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    Impressive, but in my opinion extremely stupid. Here's to a speedy recovery and a healthy return to the platform.


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    What did he injure?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Impressive, but in my opinion extremely stupid. Here's to a speedy recovery and a healthy return to the platform.
    I usually end up regretting it when I push myself too hard after an injury. Priorities are different when you're competing in a meet though; last time I competed I had a minor pec tear that I had thought would heal in time. I was in a fair amount of pain, but instead of taking a token light bench, I loaded up on ibuprofen and ended up hitting a personal meet PR. Stupid, yes, worth it, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Impressive, but in my opinion extremely stupid. Here's to a speedy recovery and a healthy return to the platform.
    Joey it isnt stupid at all that took a ton of heart to do what he did not many have that anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason View Post
    What did he injure?
    He tore his abbductor Chris
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    You guys think the fact that he squats so wide raw had something to do with that injury, considering what it was he tore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by larsen540 View Post
    Joey it isnt stupid at all that took a ton of heart to do what he did not many have that anymore.
    Not many have that period. Again, I stated it was impressive. And again , I feel it was really stupid to do.


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    Given I've done the same thing, I don't think he exacerbated it much with the token conventional deadlift. Damn good for him- that is some serious pain to focus through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    You guys think the fact that he squats so wide raw had something to do with that injury, considering what it was he tore?
    It may have. That's a good observation for sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Impressive, but in my opinion extremely stupid. Here's to a speedy recovery and a healthy return to the platform.
    What was so stupid about it to you? He put himself in no additional danger finishing the meet. Just because you wouldn't have the sack to continue doesn't make it stupid.
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    Here is my reasons for completing the meet

    http://blog.kabukiwarrior.com/2012/1...r-give-up.aspx

    as for the squat stance. I don't let any raw lifters at my gym train this wide, but it doesn't mean there is additional risk for me doing so. i have some very specific reasons that allow me to do this successfully that I don't feel the need to discuss at this time. It tore as this was a preexisting injury I have been fighting for some time that was initiated from something other than squatting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Randal View Post
    What was so stupid about it to you? He put himself in no additional danger finishing the meet. Just because you wouldn't have the sack to continue doesn't make it stupid.
    I would have gladly entertained your question until I read the last part.


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    Nice work man. Inspiring. Get well soon
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    Justin, I did not call your friend stupid, I indicated I felt the action was stupid. There is a difference. You obviously cared enough to post an insult towards me, which I simply am not going to respond to. I enjoy the training videos you post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Justin, I did not call your friend stupid, I indicated I felt the action was stupid. There is a difference. You obviously cared enough to post an insult towards me, which I simply am not going to respond to. I enjoy the training videos you post here.
    I still don't see what was so stupid about finishing the meet. You could make an argument for having taken the squat in the first place but what we do is inherantly dangerous to begin with. Taking a bench with no leg drive and pulling 143 (Roughly the equivalent of curling a 5# DB) poses no physical threat other than a bit of pain. I just don't see how labeling the decision to continue as "Stupid" makes any sense at all. If anything I find his choice admirable.
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    I think this is a case where it's "Do as I say not as I do". There's no chance in HELL I'd tell a guy who'd hurt himself like that to keep going. I also know there's no chance in hell I'd want to pack it in if it were me. Chris, mad credit to you for finishing what you started. Joey's got a point- you coulda made it a heck of a lot worse (potentially), but... hey. Every time we go out there and lift ANYTHING there's a chance we might not be walking afterwards. The mental consequences to not finishing were worse than the potential physical consequences of continuing on.

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    Here is the deal you could get killed crossing the street. And I'm sure someone woukd post something saying that person is stupid. The fact is very few people get hurt and finish what they started. This will be a story that I tell my kids when they tell me they want to quit. Chris could have quit and no one would have said shit to him. The fact is he had a mind set to finish. You know how many times I have cut weight and wanted to quit. Ill tell you what I will read this next time I want to quit and I promise I won't quit.

    So I'm sure it was stupid for micheal Jordan to at in a playoff game with the flu against Utah right. No he killed them that game. How bout las year when Ramon rondo broke his elbow and finished the game. How many athletes put it on the line to finish. Not very many people have that drive.
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    Rajon Rondo. And Jordan was trolling everyone. Regardless, thanks for keeping the conversation civil. Alex seems to get what I am saying. Chris stated in the video he is a leg drive bencher. So now the lift changes and perhaps he uses a bit more pecs than usual which causes a torn pec. I know deadlifting 143 lbs likely won't be dangerous, but people have thrown out their backs picking up a pencil from the floor. It looked like even that weight was painful as hell. So, now there is little leg strength at all and maybe a disc in the back is one wrong move from blowing out. So, while exacerbating the current injury might not be likely, there seemed to be some potential, or an increased potential to hurt something else. To me it comes down to risk versus reward. There doesn't seem to be much of a reward of needing people carry me out to lift weights not even near my max just to be able to say the meet was finished. Stopping after that squat, immediately attending to the injury, treating it, and rehabbing to come back in the future to do a meet where one would exceed their previous total isn't quitting. It would be......smart.



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    Joey,

    Firstly I apologize for insulting you. Chris is a dear friend and seeing him get injured was very upsetting for me.

    That being said I still admire his will to finish and assure you he was in no more danger finishing than the rest of us. Like Adrian said we all take risks daily. Let's just agree to disagree here..
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    Accepted and I appreciate the reasons you guys have for your opinion as well. They do make sense and I can certainly see where you are coming from. I agree the quality of not giving up is definitely an admirable one.
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    Had the MRI this morning and just read the report. AWESOME NEWS!!! Its a partial tear, no avulsion, no ruptures, looks like my quick exit formt he bar saved me from surgery. Time to get it on with rehab!

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    Good to hear it, man! Looks like it could have been a hell of a lot worse than that!
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