The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Wannabebig Member Spartian's Avatar
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    5/3/1 BBB during cut?

    Been following the baby got back routine from this site for yonkers. Loved it but would like to change it up!
    Heard awesome stuff about the 5/3/1 Boring But Big routine. Looks great and I've always made pretty good gains following strength orientated workouts.

    My question is this. I still have about 8-10 weeks of cutting to hit my target. Would it be stupid to change my workout during a cut? I would like to stay on this routine for 8-12 cycles, therefore I'm really wanting to really add some size using this workout after my cut.

    FYI I have programmed the routine like this:

    Squats 5/3/1
    Squats 5x10
    Hamstring curls 3x10
    10 minutes HIIT on treadmill

    Bench 5/3/1
    Bench 5x10
    BB rows 5x10
    Dips 3x10
    10 minutes HIIT on treadmill

    Deadlift 5/3/1
    Deadlift 5x10
    Ab crunch 3x10
    Face Pulls 3x10
    10 min HIIT cardio

    Mil Press 5/3/1
    Mil Press 5x10
    Chin ups 5x10
    BB curls 3x10
    10 min HIIT on treadmill

    Any comments on programming welcome too.

    Many thanks all.

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    What are your goals for the long run? Are you training for size? Strength? Body fat loss? It sounds like you're cutting down to a certain weight or bf% and then bulking up again? Clarify what you want to do.
    Bench: 315x3
    Squat: 455x2
    Dead: 500

    Currently 6 ft, 230 lb.

    "All people dream but not equally. Those who dream by night in the recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous ones, for they may act their dream with open eyes to make it possible."

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    Wannabebig Member Spartian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whoopipally View Post
    What are your goals for the long run? Are you training for size? Strength? Body fat loss? It sounds like you're cutting down to a certain weight or bf% and then bulking up again? Clarify what you want to do.
    Thanks for your reply sir. My apologies, i should of specified.

    Long run I would like to get to about 190lbs with low bodyfat. I'm 190lbs at the moment but running at about 16% which i am trying to reduce. I am also considering competing in some natural powerlifting competitions, especially for single pressing movements. - I have recently noticed i have a considerably higher bench press than anyone i know regardless of weight. So performance is a factor, but i enjoy the aesthetic improvements too. I hope this makes sense. I guess this is partially the reason I am keen to try 5/3/1, however i am unsure if i'm trying to do too many things at once!
    Last edited by Spartian; 01-29-2013 at 12:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartian View Post
    Thanks for your reply sir. My apologies, i should of specified.

    Long run I would like to get to about 190lbs with low bodyfat. I'm 190lbs at the moment but running at about 16% which i am trying to reduce. I am also considering competing in some natural powerlifting competitions, especially for single pressing movements. - I have recently noticed i have a considerably higher bench press than anyone i know regardless of weight. So performance is a factor, but i enjoy the aesthetic improvements too. I hope this makes sense. I guess this is partially the reason I am keen to try 5/3/1, however i am unsure if i'm trying to do too many things at once!
    Their is nothing wrong with those goals, but in my opinion, I would focus on one thing at a time. Keep in mind you're asking to drop body fat but at the same time get strength for future powerlifting meets. Those wont benefit each other to much.

    If you want to lose some BF, then focus on strength training (Which in itself would be tough because once you eat like a powerlifter again you will gain some of that fat back, assuming you're eating more than maintenance.) I'd follow your old template during the cut.
    Bench: 315x3
    Squat: 455x2
    Dead: 500

    Currently 6 ft, 230 lb.

    "All people dream but not equally. Those who dream by night in the recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous ones, for they may act their dream with open eyes to make it possible."

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    IMO leg curls are useless for most people. I would replace them with goodmornings if your back can take it (which it can)

    otherwise, seems decent. You will need to eat a TON to do this routine though.
    210 LBS at 15% BF

    Bench: 265lbs x 1
    Deads: 505lbs x 2
    Squat: 405lbs x 1
    Press: 195lbs x 1

    Today I do what you wont so tomorrow I can do what you can't.

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    If I was looking to lose a decent amount of weight, I might consider the not doing jack shit or the BW options.


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