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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Possible meniscus tear

    Was wondering if anyone here had to deal with this? I've seen the doctor and will be starting with a physical therapist this monday, most likely a slight tear as the pain is minimal but drastic if pressure is put on the right spot.

    To anyone that has had one, did you train around it or did you stop all squatting etc. until it was healed?
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    If the meniscus is indeed torn, it will not heal on it's own.

    If it's a very minor tear or strain, your therapy is geared towards rehabbing the surrounding ligaments and decreasing inflamation in the area. I work with a ton of athletes who have had this injury as a result of sports.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bell View Post
    If the meniscus is indeed torn, it will not heal on it's own.

    If it's a very minor tear or strain, your therapy is geared towards rehabbing the surrounding ligaments and decreasing inflamation in the area. I work with a ton of athletes who have had this injury as a result of sports.
    I disagree Travis on the healing of this type of injury. I tore my left one 20+ years ago when I was 15 and I tore the right one when I was in my mid 20's (along with partial ACL tears in each leg). The key with a meniscal tear is exactly where it is torn (is the ACL involved) and how severe the tear is. It is a tissue that heals very, very slowly. Usually with the typical athlete, they are someone who wants to return to function as fast as possible so they can play their sport. Someone who is just doing weight lifting (or in my case, I tore the left one before I got into boxing/kickboxing and Tang Su Do and I tore the right one after I was on my way out of doing that stuff) a meniscal tear can heal over time, IF it doesn't "roll up". If that happens surgery is almost always needed to alleviate joint pain.

    Like you said though, strengthening the area around the knee is a key point to therapy. this includes specifically working the VMOs and the hamstring/calf tie ins.
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    So if I have a partial tear what exercises do you think are safe to do? I assume squats are out of the question for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JK1 View Post
    I disagree Travis on the healing of this type of injury. I tore my left one 20+ years ago when I was 15 and I tore the right one when I was in my mid 20's (along with partial ACL tears in each leg). The key with a meniscal tear is exactly where it is torn (is the ACL involved) and how severe the tear is. It is a tissue that heals very, very slowly. Usually with the typical athlete, they are someone who wants to return to function as fast as possible so they can play their sport. Someone who is just doing weight lifting (or in my case, I tore the left one before I got into boxing/kickboxing and Tang Su Do and I tore the right one after I was on my way out of doing that stuff) a meniscal tear can heal over time, IF it doesn't "roll up". If that happens surgery is almost always needed to alleviate joint pain.

    Like you said though, strengthening the area around the knee is a key point to therapy. this includes specifically working the VMOs and the hamstring/calf tie ins.

    You and I are saying the same thing. That's why I said if it indeed is torn, as in severly torn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bell View Post
    You and I are saying the same thing. That's why I said if it indeed is torn, as in severly torn.
    My mistake... I didn't read what you posted that way at first, but rereading it, I understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTakeEmOff31 View Post
    So if I have a partial tear what exercises do you think are safe to do? I assume squats are out of the question for now.
    Actually squats were one of the only exercises I COULD do, although I had to squat correctly--in otherwords semiwide stance, keep tibia perpendicular to the floor, full range of motion, and sit back. If you squat in anyway where the knee tracks out in front of the toes, you will make things worse. Squat correctly and you should be able to squat unless there is complete and total disruption of the knee joint.


    Stay the hell away from leg extensions and hack squats. Those two machines will destroy your knees. Also avoid many "new" types of leg presses because it seems like the latest trend in these swing arm leg presses are to increase shearing forces on the knee, instead of allowing an appropriate setup.

    Lunges depend.. the same with stepups. They may or may not be good.


    TKE's are a must do though. The same with GHR's.
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    How was the tear diagnosed? Usually you need an MRI to see a torn meniscus. If it is indeed torn you could just opt for surgery. A minor tear can be taken care of easily and the rehab is very rapid. Also what JK1 said is only true in some cases. Tears in the meniscus can only heal themselves if they are in the correct location. Since there is no blood supply to much of the meniscus, there are large portions that are not capable of healing themselves. Hopefully you've seen a good doctor and already have an MRI and know the location of your tear and that it can be healed on its own, if not get a new doctor who knows what he/she is doing and get it fixed by whatever route is necessary.

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    Back in 08 I tore mine in my right knee. I tore the left and right side of the right knee. I had surgery to repair it, my knee was actually locked up from the tear. I was able to walk out of surgery with minimal pain and able to have full use within a couple weeks. Ever since there has been pain but very manageable. However, about 3 months ago my knee started locking again. I'd wake up and it'd be locked, I'd go too deep on a squat and it'd lock (freaked me the fuck out), or even running would fuck it up. An MRI has shown that one side is torn, apparently they didn't remove enough during the original surgery. I'm waiting for worker's comp to quit fuckin around so I can have it repaired. I don't run anymore, but I do still squat. I just take a pretty wide stance and don't go as deep. Hurts like a bitch and gets pretty swollen but it's manageable.

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    I'm just going to echo what Mike said. You need an MRI to really make an informed decision


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    Thanks for advice everyone. Judging from what people here have posted I may not have actually torn it and it might only be a sprain, there is no clicking or stiffness. Will be going back to the doctor next week and will be getting an MRI if the pain has not subsided.
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