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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    WTB PLing Gym in VT

    This thread is obviously very very old thus the reason i've edited the title and this opening post. For anyone who doesn't know me...

    Name: Kevin
    Age: 25
    Weight: 161
    Height: 5'4"

    I'm a big fan of powerlifting and strength training in general and was very consistent for many years including doing a few competitions here and there. The past 3-4 years have been riddled with injuries, moves, and extreme lifestyle changes.

    I'm now currently situated in Burlington, VT where I have yet to find a decent strength training gym with all the tools I enjoy. Currently i'm just trying to my base back considering I was as strong if not stronger when i was 17-18 than I am now at 25..

    Anyway, i'll be posting mostly WS-esque workouts for a bit while I hibernate through this awful winter (not a fan of snow) but will be modifying and incorporating some new things too to switch it up a bit.

    Nice to be back..again. Looking forward to posting.
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    First light lower day of my new routine, testing things out and getting used to back squats again. Kept things real light, speed was good and the short rest times were killer.

    Light Lower Day:

    *Treadmill*
    *Rotator Cuff Stuff*
    *Kettlebell Stuff*
    *Light Stretching*

    Box Squats - (13" box, 5-10 second rests) -
    45 x 5 (full)
    135 x 8 (full)
    175 x 3 (Add box)
    175 x 2
    175 x 2
    175 x 2
    175 x 2
    175 x 2
    175 x 2
    175 x 2
    175 x 2
    175 x 2

    Front Squat (30 Second Rests) -
    135 x 5
    175 x 8
    175 x 8

    Incline Leg Press (30 Second Rests) -
    1pps x 10
    2pps x 8
    3pps x 8
    4pps x 8

    DB Hammer Curls -
    30 x 12
    30 x 12

    Upper Body Plyometrics:

    Slams (30 Second Rests) -
    x 10
    x 10
    x 10

    Plyometric Pushups (30 Second Rests) -
    x 8
    x 8
    x 8

    *Rowing*
    *Treadmill*
    *Kettlebell Stuff*
    *Rotator Cuff Stuff*
    *Stretching*

    Everything felt pretty good. Had a sharp quick pain in my left knee for a second or two during one of the front squat sets but I'm pretty sure I just came forward a little too quick. My biceps felt a little tight so I did the light hammer curls to get some blood flowin in them, felt good. Not really sure what i'll do for conditioning tomorrow.
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    What are "slams" and some of the other upper body plyo's your doing? All I know are clapping pushups and clapping chin ups.
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    Steve - Slams are pretty basic, you use a medicine ball. Using both hands raise it up over your head and then slam it in to the ground as hard as you can, catch it when it bounces up and repeat. Aside from the plyo pushups the other upper body plyo's im gonna be doing involve the medicine ball i.e. side throws, back throws, explosive start throws, single arm overhead throws, etc...

    Holywars - thanks man

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    sick workout!
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    Looks interesting Starke, I haven't tried plyometrics yet. Psyched about moving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Can'tstopnow View Post
    Looks interesting Starke, I haven't tried plyometrics yet. Psyched about moving?
    You have no idea man... haha. Plyo's are fun and hopefully it'll give my midget ass some decent ups

    Stump - Thanks big guy.

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    Looks like you have a solid plan. Keep the plyo work posted, interested to see what you are doing. I need to start some plyo work myself and am looking for ideas.

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    Nice workout Kevin! Like the plan as well.
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    Props on having the foresight to stay ahead of the game before you make transitions...you'll do great!!
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    Nice looking **** Kev.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Sweet!
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    Kev new split looks solid, I liked the recent workout as well.
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    Mike G - Sure thing man

    ericg - Thanks im pretty excited to see how it pans out.

    Coke - Yah I figured it'd be good to get a head start.

    Chub - Thanks bro.

    Anthony - Haha hell yah, thanks for all the advice man.

    Sidior - Yah im pretty pleased with how it came out, the workout was fun and while the weight wasnt anything crazy the short rest periods had me sweating balls.

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    Todays workout was real fun, very fast too I kept the rest times real short. It was my first time doing dips in a long while and the first time i've done decline anything in... ever? Everything felt good except I got some sharp shoulder pain in my left shoulder during and after the standing dumbell press. It went away after 10 minutes or so but i'm still not sure whether I'm gonna keep doing overhead pressing in future workouts, not sure if its worth the shoulder injury again but i'll try and feel it out each week and see how that goes cause i'd really like to get my overhead strength back up to par. The close grip decline's are an interesting exercise, definitelly a tricep killer. Really fried my triceps today and got some blood in my chest, delts, and back. Kept things light since I still wanna feel out how my body will react to in the increased work load throughout the week. The plyo's were really fun and I kept the volume not too crazy since I want my knees to adapt to the exercises. I'm probably just outta shape but the plyo's gave me a pretty good leg pump and had me sweating by the time I was done with them, heavy lower tomorrow.

    Light Upper Lifting:

    *Treadmill*
    *Rotator Cuff Stuff*
    *Kettlebell Stuff*
    *Light Stretching*

    Close Grip Decline Bench (30 Second Rests) -
    45 x 8
    135 x 5
    155 x 8
    155 x 8

    Dips (30 Second Rests) -
    x 8
    +25 x 10
    +25 x 10
    x 10

    Standing DB Press (45 Second Rests) -
    17 x 8
    35 x 8
    35 x 8
    40 x 5

    Close Grip Low Cable Rows (30 Second Rests) -
    90 x 8
    105 x 8
    105 x 8

    Lower Body Plyometrics: (30 Second rests between all sets)

    Squat Jumps -
    x 8
    x 8

    Lateral Box Pushoffs -
    x 24
    x 24

    Jump to Ledge (Ledge was 28/29" High, Jumped from 3.5/4 Feet Away) -
    x 8
    x 8

    *Dumbell Raises*
    *Hip Flexibility Exercises*
    *Kettlebell Stuff*
    *Rotator Cuff Stuff*
    *Treadmill*
    *Stretching*

    Everything was light and my triceps got hit pretty hard, definitelly not used to the volume but it's a nice change. I'll probably add a little more upper back work as the weeks go on and my body gets used to the higher volume, my current muscle endurance blows.

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    Crazy workout foo. Are you sticking to a particular diet at all?
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    Interesting new program. So you going to be dunking anytime soon?
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    sick workout kevin
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    30 sec rests....holy ****! I need a 1 minute rest just getting water from the fountain.
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    Interesting routine. I'm looking forward to following your progress.

    Oh yeah...good luck with your move.
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    Holy Wars - Just tryin to eat clean

    Guido - Actually I caught myself in the mirror during my squat jumps and my vertical has definitelly improved since starting the front squats 11 weeks ago. Im hoping the combination of plenty of leg work, conditioning, and all the plyometrics will result in my vertical getting even better.

    Stump - Thanks man, all light weight so nothing really sick but we'll see what happens when I start up for real in San Francisco.

    Sidior - haha yah man I hate actual cardio so having really short rest times is my way of getting my heart pumping and body sweating during my workouts for this training cycle.

    Kana - Thanks man i'm interested in seeing how it goes as well. I don't own many things so hopefully the move wont be too difficult.

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    Solid workout. What do you think your vertical is right now? It would be interesting to see how much it improves in the following months.

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    I dont know, how do you even test it on your own?

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    Put chalk on your hand and make a mark with your arm stretched out on a wall. Jump and hit the wall. Measure in between? I have seen the cool markers they use at the NFL combine, but I doubt you have one. You could also see where you can hit on a backboard and see how much higher you can get. Just curious.

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