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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Road To A Double BW Bench..

    If you guys think this is a bad idea you can just have a Mod delete it or whatever.

    I think it will be very interesting to see who can double their BW in bench. I have personally known a few guys who can litereally double their BW in bench. Most were light guys, one was 150 lbs. benching 315 for reps. The other was 160 benching 345 for 2-3 reps.

    Both were strong as f*cking hell but anyways.

    Is anyone close in this?

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    PB for me is a 270-275 lbs. bench for one rep. Full ROM touching my chest with the bar. Thats around a BW x 1.35 bench. Not too bad if you ask me.

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    Maybe a BW x 1.5 bench is much more realistic?

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    im not close, but in one week i saw 4 of the people i was training with hit 2 bodyweight bench

    one was 135 and benches around 290
    one did like 325 in the 148's in competition i think
    another did 425 @ 190
    and last one did 455@198, and hit 500 in a competition before.

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    Adam, LATMAN, etc. is a 1.5 x BW bench a better idea than a double BW bench? Because some of us bigger guys are going to struggle with a 400 lbs. bench..

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    So what. I'm game to hit 400+.



    And there's no BS in bench. You either take it to your chest or you don't.
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    LATMAN has a 1.5 bw bench.. i wouldnt be suprised if he hits 2x bw if he gets a new shirt.
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    Yeah B this is kind of what I was thinking when I started this thread. Haha you would have to hit something like 440 lbs. on bench B...

    I would have to hit like 405 lbs. or maybe 410 depending on how much I weigh. I dont think thats really in my reach. Well maybe in the next few *years* not months though.

    If I had it my way we would do road to BW skullcrushers, road to BW curls, road to BW one-arm rows (which you already did), etc. etc. etc. I think that all these competitions would be fun. But for the powerlifters it would just be bench/squat/deadlift. Oh well.

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    Originally posted by Deciever
    LATMAN has a 1.5 bw bench.. i wouldnt be suprised if he hits 2x bw if he gets a new shirt.
    How much of a difference does a shirt make? Thats something well have to dicuss. Does benching with a bench shirt still count?

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    Originally posted by MonStar

    If I had it my way we would do road to BW skullcrushers, road to BW curls, road to BW one-arm rows (which you already did), etc. etc. etc.
    That would be a little OCD.
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    Originally posted by Belial
    That would be a little OCD.
    OCD?

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    benching with a shirt can make a big difference... you can only bench as much as you can lockout and push up. Personally i dont get much out of a shirt, because i have weak shoulders so i get stuck at the midpoint.
    But if you have a weak chest, strong shoulders and tri's, than you could get a lot out of a shirt.
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    Yeah thats what I would think Deciever so I cant decide if a double BW bench would be the same thing as a double BW bench w/ a bench shirt on.

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    So go change the parameters in the squat thread. Belt? Wraps? Depth?

    Notice why the deadlift thread caught on, eh? Just you and the bar. No bullshit, really.
    "Except Belial. He knows everything. This isn't a sarcastic attack, either. He really knows everything." -----Organichu
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    Yeah this is kind of what I had in mind for bench and squat too. I mean there really shouldnt be any bullsh*t. I dont know about a bench shirt or whatever but I guess it doesnt matter.

    Just bench and f*ck all the other stuff.

    Squatting I dont think that a belt, wraps, etc. make a difference at all personally. But thats just where I stand.

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    Monstar I would jump on the bench contest, first to 400lbs for the guys that are around 270-300, would be a cool contest.
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    Yeah I am going to try Rock. Belial is extremely close I am pretty sure his goal for 2003 in bench is 400 or something along those lines. Some crazy a*s sh*t... truly amazing strength. That would be a 180 lbs. more than his BW. Actually VERY close to double.

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    ok, Its on!
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    My goal for 2003 is 315 for 4. So maybe 335 or something like that for 1 if I hit my initial goal. Well see how things go I guess.

    Our strongman Belial is at a little bit of a disadvantage because hes recovering from a shoulder injury. Well see what happens.

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    Hey id like to go for 1.5 or 2x BW bench press. Sounds like fun.
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    Go for it shredder its open to everyone. How much do you weigh now man? Just double that and see if you can get that for 1 rep with a full ROM.

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    Originally posted by MonStar

    Our strongman Belial is at a little bit of a disadvantage because hes recovering from a shoulder injury. Well see what happens.
    No excuses for me are necessary. If I re-injure it, it's because I did something stupid. It's on.
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    Ok, dude. I'm in too. For now my max bench press is about my BW. just have to double it no big deal
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    There is a massive difference between a max with a shirt or without one. Without a shirt you are limited to how much weight you can move off your chest. With a shirt getting the bar up is not a problem is becomes a matter of if your tris can can lock it out. To find out where you are weak in the bench is imperative to its improvement. Always your weak points 1st. If you miss at the bottom weak pecs and or lats. Miss at the middle usually weak or sore shoulders, mis at the top its always weak tris. Personally I have hit 435 at 198. I use %s in the gym and follow most of louie simmons ideas good luck

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