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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Deadlifts....with back day or leg day?

    For a while I have been strongly considering doing deadlifts on leg day along with squats. Since both take a pounding on the lower back I have just felt maybe it would be best to do both on leg day and have a full week to allow my lower back to rest and recover. Also, the deadlift involves alot of leg movement as well.

    I was just wondering what others thought about this? Do you do deads with legs or back? Can you give me your logic behind this?

    The article Back to Jungle Basic by Chris Schultz really has me thinking maybe I do need to move deadlifts to leg day.

    Thoughts?

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    *waits for huge battle to begin*
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    I'd never do them with legs, wouldn't have enough energy left to get the most out of them. I used to always do them with back, but they were taking a LOT away from pullups and rows (although I managed to add 15 pounds to my pullups following deads, I think I can do better). I'm trying something new this time. I'm leaving squats with legs, leaving back day as a BACK day, and moving deadlifts to their own day paired with shoulders.

    I think I'll get the most out of everything this way.

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    I believe this a lower back exercise, so i do mine on back days.

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    Originally posted by Otter
    I'm trying something new this time. I'm leaving squats with legs, leaving back day as a BACK day, and moving deadlifts to their own day paired with shoulders.

    I think I'll get the most out of everything this way.
    Looks bloody brilliant to me.


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    Originally posted by Belial
    Looks bloody brilliant to me.
    It should, I got the idea from your journal. It made sense to me, so I'm going with it.

    Don't get an ego though, I'm not trying to BE you like some other dudes.

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    back, and i only work deads maybe 2-3x a month

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    age old dilemma no doubt

    do you want sore lats and traps on back day
    or sore legs on leg day

    personally I do deads as a leg exercise on leg day
    and squats the next leg day

    I guess I really don't care about a huge back and I am more concerned with leg development and big numbers

    oh yeah... trying to deadlift with sore biceps and brachialis NASTY

    there is no solution

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    I consider deads to be a lower body exercise(I train low back with lower body). I currently am experimenting with a day devoted to deads and variations of deads and another day devoted to squats and squat variations. After the dead variations I work rows, shrugs, and finish off with stuff like pull thrus, reverse hypers and abs. It is to soon to tell how effective it is.
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    Originally posted by LATMAN
    I consider deads to be a lower body exercise(I train low back with lower body). I currently am experimenting with a day devoted to deads and variations of deads and another day devoted to squats and squat variations.


    doesn't this contradict this ?

    After the dead variations I work rows, shrugs, and finish off with stuff like pull thrus, reverse hypers and abs. It is to soon to tell how effective it is.
    anyway

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    Originally posted by Belial


    Looks bloody brilliant to me.




    belial what's your split look like then?

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    I do deads on neck day.

    If you don't have a "neck day" in your split then you're not reaching your full potential.

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    Originally posted by Accipiter




    belial what's your split look like then?
    m-rest
    t-back/biceps
    w-rest
    th-deadlifts/shoulders
    f-rest
    s-chest/triceps
    su-legs

    It was an attempt at humor on my part.
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    Originally posted by Lettuce Face
    I do deads on neck day.

    If you don't have a "neck day" in your split then you're not reaching your full potential.
    lol, I used to train neck, I'm pretty sure my head is crooked now, hehehe

    I personally think Belial has a good split. And this is not an attempt to suck up to him. Anyone with some brains can see by looking at it that it's got potential
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