The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
    Tir na nOc Pursuer Borgod Maxximus's Avatar
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    bad diahorrea after excellent workout

    OK laugh if you will, but this was my experience tonight...

    Follow me..

    Ive been bulking the past few weeks, with my training becoming really more intense.
    Thismorning for breakfast I had 2 slices of toast and 2 glasses of OJ.
    Lunch - 1/4 chicken and a large chicken & salad roll

    Went to gym right after work on empty stomach, drank 1.5L water while working out. Was perhaps the best session Ive had in months, set new PB's and was a good intense workout. 5mins after finishing my workout I had:
    45g dextrose
    30g matltodextrin
    5g creatine
    500mL water

    I pretty much skulled that. 20mins later when I got home I had my protein shake:
    2 scoops of whey
    20g of dextrose
    20g of maltodextrin
    400mL hi-lo milk

    This is when it began.
    About 30mins after that shake I went to the toilet and have had very painful diahorrea ever since.
    Ive been a few times since then (3 hours) and its like I am sh*tting pure acid, really stinging and really painful.

    My question is, do you think there is any link?
    Excellent workout, lots of post-workout carbs and protein?

    Ive been taking a similar post-workout shake for the past fortnight and never had this, althought tonight was the first time I mixed additional sugars to my protein shake. I usually also have a creatine drink before myworkout aswell, but tonight I didnt.

    I didnt eat anything between lunch and dinner (dinner was about an hour after workout) so I dont know how it can be food that caused it. I feel fine otherwise.

    I just cant figure out how my body reacted so acidic-ly and didnt want what was inside me after the carb, creatine and protein drinks I had, volume of water and the excellent workout I had.

    Any ideas people?
    "In the pool of dreams, the water darkens for the soul thats tired of search"

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    Tir na nOc Pursuer Borgod Maxximus's Avatar
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    Oh and also, Ive been using creatine for a long time now so it wouldnt be that.
    Although come to think of it todays creatine was a new tub of a particular brand, first time I used that was today. But I used this brand 12 months and it was the best creatine Ive ever used... hmmm
    "In the pool of dreams, the water darkens for the soul thats tired of search"

    Varg Vikernes

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    Overtrained?

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    How would overtraining make that happen to me?
    "In the pool of dreams, the water darkens for the soul thats tired of search"

    Varg Vikernes

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    Probably just getting a bit of a reaction from the Whey and the milk...sometimes happens too me.
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    If this happens only after a workout then it's got to be something with the shake, but if it happens regularly maybe your not getting enough fibre in your diet.
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

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    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    Dude, that's shitty....

    *sorry couldn't resist*
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    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    lol @ maki
    ...watch me reap of what I sow....

    and BOOM goes the dynomite!

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    Acid Ass is the worst!
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    hell yeah

    naa its the first time i can ever remember it happening, never had this before

    The suggestion of overtraining made me think, cause I guess I did over train:
    shoulder press, delt raises, flat db press, incline fly, peck deck, dips, calf raises, quad raises, triceps etc

    But until it explained to me how overtraining can have this effect on me Im still at a loss
    "In the pool of dreams, the water darkens for the soul thats tired of search"

    Varg Vikernes

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    what is the purpose of the 2 shakes ? why not have one with 75-100 grams of carbs with the creatine and whey mixed together ?

    what is the purpose of adding the 400mL hi-lo milk when you already have enough sugar and protein ?

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    2 reasons for 2 shakes:

    a) With so much protein suddenly being taken in Ive heard the stomach digests or 'processes' this primarily, thus the creatine isnt as effectively digested. I think its common knowledge that having protein and creatine separately is a better idea, thats what Ive been led to believe anyway.
    In future I wont be mixing additional carbs in my protein shake when I get home, its just too sweet.

    b) I dont have a 240v inverter in my car so I cannot use a Bamix blender to make my protein shake Blenders are the only way to go IMO. I like to have my creatine and carbs as soon as I get in my car after a workout at the gym. The quicker its in me the better. Then 44g of whey (with milk) when Im home and Im happy.


    If we have Skim milk, I would prefer that over hi-lo but ordinarily we have ran out of skim.
    Protein shakes and water doesnt agree with me.
    Hi-Lo is good.
    "In the pool of dreams, the water darkens for the soul thats tired of search"

    Varg Vikernes

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    Severe stress to your system can cause bowel problems.

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    It was the 500mL of water after your workout. That does it every time.
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    Magnus: its the first time its happened, and I always have alot of water during and after my workout
    "In the pool of dreams, the water darkens for the soul thats tired of search"

    Varg Vikernes

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