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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Once a week??????

    Hi all,

    I finished reading the training routines on this site and I am baffled. If I read it correctly, one would only excercise each part of the body once a week. Traditional "wisdom" would have you hit each part of the body 2-3 times a week with 1-2 days rest.

    I don't claim to be an expert, or even well versed in this deal, but I find it hard to believe once a week is enough. Comments?

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    You read the articles correct. It's enough imo. I've be training like that for about 6-7 months and I've made incredible gains.
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    You grow out of the gym, not in it. What I'm saying is that once a week allows you to recoup, your muscles to heal and grow before you hit them again. If that once a week is done with intensity, it will be more then enough.

    Oh, and most tradition "wisdom" is nothing more then fairy tales.
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    I use HST and train everything 3 times a week. Lower volume, of course. Maybe there's something to tradicional wisdom as i'm making better gains than ever.

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    You grow outside the gym... however isn't a week of rest too much ? I would think 2-3 days of rest would be enough too... just my opinion.

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    You do work most of the same muscles on each training day. Most of the movements are compound exercises, so I think you get enough of the work out and maximized rest.
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    Originally posted by Spawn_X
    You grow outside the gym... however isn't a week of rest too much ? I would think 2-3 days of rest would be enough too... just my opinion.
    I believe it is. Everyone has a different body type, however, & some training methods work better than others for different people. I train each body part twice a week. I've trained every day (when i was young ), 3 times a week, & only once a week. Two times seemed to work better for me, so .......
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    3 times/week seems to do it for me.. if I train once a week I don't seem to progress forward. At the load I'm giving my body, I recover in about a day or two.

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    Thanks guys. I see I CAN read correctly. And sounds like some differences of opinion on the matter.

    Gotta think about this one. Right now I'm 3 times a week but I doubt at the same intensity as most of you. Then again, I'm coming from way down and CAN'T do the same intensity.

    We'll see. Thanks again.

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    It's all about how your body responds and recovers, really. Some people need the extra rest, some don't. As long as you hit your muscles hard and give them adequate rest, you should grow.
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    What do you think about HIT 3x/week? Same muscle group (chest) pretty much every other day..

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    Every person's body is different. I found once a week to be woefully inadequate, i'd gain, then loose the gains in the time before I hit the muscle again.

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    Originally posted by arnach
    Every person's body is different. I found once a week to be woefully inadequate, i'd gain, then loose the gains in the time before I hit the muscle again.
    You'd gain?

    Gain what? Pump? Water retention?

    Then you lost it a few days later, right?

    You most certainly did not lose muscle mass in a week.

    The premise of exercising a certain group of muscles DIRECTLY only once a week, is based around the idea that those same muscles are worked EXTREMELY thoroughly during the other movements you execute during the rest of your training days.

    You're not LITERALLY training your biceps, and then letting them rest for 6 days. My friend trains each muscle group *DIRECTLY* once a week, and says his bis get the equivalent of maybe 3 or 4 days of true rest....not 6.

    I'm not advocating training this way, in fact, it's not the method I use.

    I dunno, though, my old room mate was a body builder, so I always assumed that these days, everybody EXCEPT me was training each group directly once a week. I guess it depends on your perspective.

    For the most part......again.....FOR THE MOST PART, that's how professional bodybuilders train, but I mean that only as a reference, and not as a guideline.....not that I'm some "authority" or something.

    It just amazes how some people log on and make comments like, "C'mon guys, don't be p*ssies, you think the pros only train each group directly once a week?"

    Uhhh, yeah, that's exactly what they do.

    You're right about one thing though.....you need to do what works for you.

    If you're currently only causing enough microtrauma to your muscles whereby they're ready to rock again 2 days later at an incrementally increased load, then you need to stick with it.

    For the most part, that is what I do too, but I really only have one heavy Working Set.

    People who EFFECTIVELY (this rules out the morons) train each muscle group DIRECTLY only once a week, however, require much more time than that. They typically use high volumes of sets and reps.

    My friend probably gets more INDIRECT work on his biceps and forearms by loading 45s onto all the different apparatuses he uses, than I get doing any other movements with the exception of curls.

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