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    Just wondering what kinds you guys eat and how often. I don't care for most veggies. All I can really eat is perhaps a basic salad(lettuce, tomato, carrots). Many people say how important they are for optimal digestion.

    Also, how about fruit? I like a lot of fruit, but figured most is just high in sugar. Any ideas on how to increase my veggies?
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    Fruit = fructose = Evil.

    Veggies make me gag, absolutely discusting.

    Therefore - no fruit or veggies for me

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    same here...hate them... but i do eat natural apple sauce...i just eat them cause there low GI and some fiber and very high water content...

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    veg and fruit are good for health. and have many chemicals in them besides vits and minerals that are good for your health. however as long as you are not deficent in vit and mineral they surply in them then eating them will offer no ergogenic benefit. so not need for BB/powerlifting. but needed for health you call its your health.

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    broccoli, asaparagus, onions, lettuce, green beans, sugar snap peas, bell peppers and chilis, spinach , so many mmmmm...

    no fruit though. Not needed when most veggies have way more antioxidants with no fructose

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    My two favorites are brocolli and romaine lettuce. They are both high fiber and fill you up so they are great for dieting.

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    I eat fruit everyday.


    I rememeber Cack telling me in the chat that if i eat fruit i will give my children diabeties...or something silly like that anyway...
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    I eat brocolli(yuck), celery(yuck), things like that. nothing at all good about them, but very fibrous(this word may be fictional, it means containing fiber).

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    "I rememeber Cack telling me in the chat that if i eat fruit i will give my children diabeties...or something silly like that anyway..."

    I didn't say that fool! I said the increased sugar consumption of americans appears to be correlated to an increased rate of diabeties. Nothing you have to worry about.

    Fructose should be avoided for a few reasons, but it has nothing to do with diabeties!

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    Just as well I ain't american than eh Justin?
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    I agree with Body. If your goals are success in bodybuilding or powerlifting you can achieve them without fruits and vegetables. However, fruits and vegetables are loaded with nutrients called phytochemicals. It appears that they probably aren't all that important in the short term, but they appear to help prevent or at least delay some of the degenerative problems that happen when we get older.

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    Latman....

    I LOVE cooked Broccli...mmmm...Yummy! Add to that cooked Cauliflower, raw tomaotoes (I'll only eat certain ones, and I eat'em like an apple.), cooked spinach, green beans, bell peppers...wow I can't list'em all...
    As for fruit... man I haven't touched fruit in a looooooooong time.
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    I love fruits and veggies and I won't give em up!! FOR ME, their positives far outweigh the negatives.

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    I love fruit, mmmmmmm. I like all veggies even though I don't eat enough of them.
    Only time I will limit my fruit intake will be when I am cutting back on cals to lose some excess BF.
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    what do u guys think about juicing(no not roids) i mean "the juice man"...lol...

    my dad started it and hes diabetic, after a couple day he stoped using insulin and all the rest of his pills and felt great, but then he cheated and his blood sugar went up to 370 so he had to inject.

    what i was thinking, say doing a juice drink and then throw in some whey protein. do u think thats good?

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    I'm like Maki - I eat fruit but when i diet i will swap fruit for veggies.
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    i try and eat alot of fruits and veggies. brocolli, onions, garlic, tomatoes, apples, bananas, carrots, etc.
    fruits are natures candy!
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    I too eat as much fruits and veggies as possible. For me it is better to snack on them rather than junk food. When I eat potatoes I try to eat sweet potatoes because they are a lot better for you, not as cheap though.

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    Raw Spinach for the fiber and also celery.

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    Celery is the only food that has negative calories...
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    <~~~~~Fruit and Veggie Goddess

    I eat almost all of them....

    Greens: Red Lettuce, Green Lettuce, Romaine, Frise, Curly Endive, Spinach, Raddicchio

    Veggies:

    Staples: sweet potatoes, onions, tomatoes, cucumbers, red and green bell peppers, broccoli, eggplant, zucchini

    and then whatever yummy new ones happen to be in season.

    Fruits: bananas, navel oranges, watermelon, cherries, strawberries, pineapple.

    I don't eat all of these everyday.....but i gits my phytochemicals, let me tell ya.
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    Originally posted by Cackerot69
    Fruit = fructose = Evil.

    and why ??????
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    Well, the fact is that fructose is four times as efficient at replenishing liver glycogen than glucose. So given these facts you may decide to use fructose selectively to help promote fat loss and to replenish liver glycogen after workouts. But, as you've probably guessed by now, it isn't quite that simple. When fructose is absorbed in the gut it is taken directly to the liver where one of two things happens to it: It is either converted into liver glycogen or it is converted into fat (to be stored!). If liver glycogen stores are NOT full then it will be converted mostly into liver glycogen but if liver glycogen stores are full it will be converted into fat. So now you're thinking "I can still use fructose after my workout, Iíll just have to be careful of how much I use, so as not to spark fat storage". Hold on, don't get carried away with the fruits just yet (they're high in fructose - hence the name fructose), it isn't that easy either. Remember earlier I stated that glucose absorbed in the gut passes right through the liver and is carried by the blood stream to the muscles (where it can be stored as muscle glycogen)? Well, that all depends on the glycogen level state of the liver. Itís like the body knows whatís going on in it various parts. If muscle glycogen is low and so is liver glycogen then the process will go ahead as described (glucose by-passing the liver and being carried to the muscles to be stored as glycogen), hence glucose is, in a way, targeted at muscle glycogen. If, on the other hand, liver glycogen stores are Ďfullí then an enzyme kicks in and starts converting the glucose into FAT! So when that starts happening weíll end up storing bodyfat at an accelerated rated and muscle glycogen still wonít be replenished optimally no matter how much glucose we take in. Clearly, we donít want to replenish liver glycogen until muscle glycogen stores are already full. There goes the idea of using fructose to selectively replenish liver glycogen - If we did that weíd hamper the process of muscle glycogen replenishment and also create an environment conducive to bodyfat storage. So how should we approach liver glycogen replenishment? Well, after all muscle glycogen stores are replenished blood-glucose will be converted by the liver and stored as glycogen (then after liver glycogen levels are restored any excess will be stored as fat). So if youíre eating enough good quality carbs, in general, liver glycogen stores will be taken care of - and muscle glycogen kept at optimal levels. Donít forget, the liver can also produce glycogen from several other dietary factors. Take home lessons: Donít go crazy on the fruits (fructose) and, from what we covered earlier, eat some good quality complex carbs every 3-4 hours (this will keep liver glycogen from becoming exhausted because blood sugar is never allowed to fall too low and it will also keep insulin levels consistent).Incidently, sucrose (table sugar) is made from one molecule of glucose connected to one molecule of fructose. It has been suspected that this is why table sugar makes people fat - it is half fructose, and the other half (glucose) rapidly raises insulin levels. The perfect fat promoting molecule.
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