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    1 rep deadlifts

    Do you guys think that if i sldl on monday for a couple sets i would get benefits from doing just one rep of my max weight for a normal deadlift on thursday?

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    is this common at all, this one rep max for deadlifts?

    i dont see the potental of just a one rep max on deadlift and thats it, what purpose does this serve tucker?
    my goals: gain weight and muscle mass

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    Well if the poundages keep going up i'm guessing strength and size gains. I'm just wondering if it's a stupid idea to do sets of stld's and only 1 rep of conventional deads.

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    Yates it's not at all but i just love doing them. You don't think it will build muscle?

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    yes,but not as much as the 8 - 10 rep range would. Do them, but not often. It's only ego training. I'm not having a go at you coz I've done them myself , it feels good to see how much you can lift, but I havent done 1 lift maxes in a while and I look better for it.
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    sounds good. To tell you the truth I just don't like the motion of doing conventional deadlifts for reps. It's not that they are hard on my body. I just don't really like them compared to stldl's.

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    For natural bodybuilding purposes, deadlifts are pointless. The reason folks advocate doing 1 rep workouts with them is because it's a good idea for strength. Don't do this every week, however.

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    Full range deadlifts from the ground are best done in 1 rep sets.

    SLDL not touching the ground should be done for reps (no need to 1 rep max).

    Now, you should not attempt to max your deadlift every week as you will stall out quick and probably lose strength. You can go heavy sometimes, other times work on speed and technique with 50-60% of your max or so. You can do variations also, like standing on plates or rack pulls.
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    latman - how often would you attempt to max for your deads?

    with my present cycle of litifn i do my heavest dead every 4 weeks. (well dead every other week).

    would you max on week 4? or would you max every 8 weeks?
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Originally posted by Saturday Fever
    For natural bodybuilding purposes, deadlifts are pointless.

    Congrats, thats the worse statement I've heard on here for months.
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    Congrats, thats the worse statement I've heard on here for months.
    It's been said by many people, many times in the last couple months, you must be missing something. But then, thinking that isn't a valid statement tells me you're missing something already.

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    Body- Depends on what other exercises you are doing. For someone geared towards increasing 1 rep strength on the big three, I'd say you should try and test it every 8 weeks or so. This doesn't mean that durig that tie I won't max other exercises, they are usually variations of the main lift. If you feel strong on that 4th week though, feel free to pull. I go by feel a lot and usually that feeling is to go as heavy as possible.
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    Saturday Fever, all exercises that provide some kind of resistance will build muscle natural or not natural.
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    Saturday Fever, all exercises that provide some kind of resistance will build muscle natural or not natural.
    You're missing the idea. The idea is that overtraining leads to anything BUT muscle growth. And as has been argued many times before, deadlifts tend to be overtraining for the traps. I think if you look at a natural lifter's back and a steroid user's back, you'll notice two very different back structures, and I'd argue that the reason for this is the recovery abilities of the steroid user.

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    No offense intended but you don't advocate deads because they may overtrain your traps ?

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    Yeah....I can't see deads as overtraining traps. If that's your excuse, don't do any other direct trap work then.
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    there are to many people worrying about overtraining, train every muscle twice a week, from the legs to the shoulders, they will grow faster and better, the key is to use different exercises every second time.
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    I think overtraining sometimes is overrated.. And Saturday I hate to say it, but you seem to be worrying to much about it.. Yea overtraining exists, but I wouldnt be paranoid about it either. And I dont think your 1rep max will build significant amount of muscle compared to higher rep count. But it will build strenght.
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    Originally posted by Saturday Fever


    It's been said by many people, many times in the last couple months, you must be missing something. But then, thinking that isn't a valid statement tells me you're missing something already.
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    All this said, compare the said backs. chris doesn't do deads, or very rarely, and has a massive back. 99% of everyone else that does deads has a basic back, nothing special. Why is this? Read my previous posts in this thread and you'll reread the answer.
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    Originally posted by Saturday Fever
    Obviously you have the largest natural traps in existence, congratulations. The only thing bigger, I think, may be your ego, but it's a close race as you obviously have ENORMOUS traps.

    I encourage all of you, excepe ElPietro, who unlike every other natural human being has HUGE traps, to take a look at natural lifters. Sure, when they first start deadlifts they may see some gains to their traps, but those stop very quickly. And for all their deadlifts, and all their, "DEADLIFTS ARE GREAT!" they don't have stunning traps. Except ElPietro, of course. Take a look at chris mason, whos back is second only to ElPietro's incredible mass. Now read his journal and see what kind of deadlift work he's done. Now read anyone else's journal who's posted pics who does deadlifts religiously. Is there any comparison? Please note that ElPietro is exempt because his traps and his ego are the largest ever recorded in natural history.

    All this said, compare the said backs. chris doesn't do deads, or very rarely, and has a massive back. 99% of everyone else that does deads has a basic back, nothing special. Why is this? Read my previous posts in this thread and you'll reread the answer.
    According to Chris Mason, as I found in Monstar's "I hate deadlifts" thread, you can build a huge back without deadlifts, but recent deadlifting has helped out his traps and grip. Now, that said, you can not argue that Chris is one of, if not the biggest mofo on this site. You can say without much doubt that all of his muscles and all of his lifts are bigger and heavier than everyone elses. Does that mean that whatever he does we should do? NO! IMO, the benefits of deadlifts to overall strength, far outweigh the small possiblity that one may overtrain traps (what is your obsession with traps anyway?). Also, as BCC said, just skip direct trap work if you think you are overtraining them...unless chris mason does direct trap work...then there is no doubt we all should do it too

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    Funny how you somehow found a line in my post that I missed that said, "Follow chris mason verbatim." I was using the physique of his back, not his routine or training ideas as an example. Way to completely make things up. Nevermind the original idea wasn't about strength it was about size gains. Next time read the words, don't make them up.

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    Originally posted by Saturday Fever
    Funny how you somehow found a line in my post that I missed that said, "Follow chris mason verbatim." I was using the physique of his back, not his routine or training ideas as an example. Way to completely make things up. Nevermind the original idea wasn't about strength it was about size gains. Next time read the words, don't make them up.
    You basically stated that Chris Mason has a huge back and does not do deadlifts. You also stated that "99% of everyone else that does deads has a basic back."

    What the hell could your point possibly be here, other than: do not do deads and you will have a huge back, because Chris Mason has a huge back and he does not do deads? Please enlighten us.
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