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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Heavy Sets First

    As in Accitpers journal, today was my first day doing it with chest and shoulders and I would bench 135x5 and then I would do 125 and only get 5 and couldn't get the 6th rep up, this is how it was for almost every exercise! Check out my journal to see it: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...191#post341191

    Will I start to get more endurance with this type of training over time? Do I need to drop more weight afer my first set? Im used to progressing on weight each set.
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    Drop the weight more on sets subsequent to your first one.
    "damn...can't beat logic like that.
    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Doing heavy sets first (after warm-ups, of course) is a Good Thing (TM).
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    What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present."

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    Originally posted by _-_v_-_
    Doing heavy sets first (after warm-ups, of course) is a Good Thing (TM).
    "damn...can't beat logic like that.
    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    is this true:

    The system is based on the neurological post-tetanic facilitation phenomenon as first discussed in strength training circles by German strength physiologist Dietmar Schmidtbleicher from Freiburg University (in order to be a successful strength coach, you must have an exotic-sounding name). In a nutshell, if you do a 6RM (the maximum load you can lift for 6 reps) load within 3-10 minutes of doing a max single, you can use a greater weight that you could have if you hadn't done the 1RM set.

    For example, let's say you can normally do 220 pounds for six reps on the incline press. However, if you do a max single four minutes prior to doing your 6 reps—which we'll say for the sake of argument is around 265—you'll be able to do six reps at 225-230 pounds. That's a significant increase.

    In fact, many trainees who use this method find that their single poundages improve each wave. In fact, a typical wave for someone who can do 6 reps with 220 pounds on the incline press may look like this:

    Set 1) 1 rep with 265 pounds
    Set 2) 6 reps with 220 pounds
    Set 3) 1 rep with 270 pounds
    Set 4) 6 reps with 225 pounds
    Set 5) 1 rep with 272.5 pounds
    Set 6) 6 reps with 230 pounds
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    any tips/comments on that?

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    Try it.
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Similarly related, a while ago I did bench BB press and maxed out then went to DB flat bench and the weights seemed ALOT lighter. Not sure if I lifted many more than I normally would but.
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    maybe becuase you were just handling a lot more overall poundage.


    and yeah, I'd drop the weight more on the 2nd set

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