Is the basic calisthenic pushup useful, or does it actually train anything?
I think they are a great exercise to use, a lot of people will tell you they are worthless but you just have to give them a try. Keep on doing regular pushups, or negative pushups, and then you can go to weighted ones.
useful in what sense? Useful for what?
They are basically useless for the trained individual, IMO. Weighted ones are a different story, but eventually you will most likely progress out of those as well.
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Pfft. If you're feeling antsy, bust out 20 or 30, 50 pushups. It will give you a nice rush and pump up your chest, bis, and tris with blood. Tom Cruise is noted to do 50 or so pushups before any scene in which he is required to take off his shirt, its actually a hollywood secret to make scrawny guys look bigger.
Arnold and Lou didnt have to do that ****. They prepared by...uhh..taking off the shirt.
But pushups really wont 'work' anything.
you mean my freind bragging to me about doing 100's of pushups every day isn't as ripped as he says he is?
one-handed pushups are pretty intense
using them to build endurance and fitness levels i think they are pretty good coupled with other bodyweight and free form exercising
but for building muscle they aren't that useful.
Accipiter, I hghly, highly doubt that your friend got that ripped because he does pushups. I can bust out 70 pushups at a pop, and I wont get 'ripped' from it.
Think he was joking.
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I think pushups are great, great for stretching and warmups.. If you've never lifted before then they are a great way to "pre-condition" your chest IMO.. I did them before i starte lifting and i feel they prepared me pretty well
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I think it all depends on what kind of shape you are in. My brother just started wrestling and he can crank out maybe 1 close grip pushup. I'd say he's gaining plenty from it from just keeping up with it. It's after you've lifted for a while (and are subsequently much stronger) that a pushup becomes more of a cardio excersize than a lifting one.
Some mornings it just isn't worth chewing through the restraints.
I think push ups are too demonized on this board. Will they get you big? No. Will they get you ripped? Absolutley not. Are they a good exercise to start with for a beginer? Sure. Push ups take alot of endurance. Whenever chest day comes around and I have no access to equipment, I do about 4 or 5 sets of push ups. I usually throw some close grip and some decline as well.
Also, however ineffective the exercise is, the military places huge emphasis on push up ability, so its handy to be able do do them if you plan on going into the service.
In conclusion, push ups are not a substitute for proper weight training, but they do come in handy and they do have their place.
I was under the impression they were good for more martial arts styles of training.
i am in the military and pushups are one of the events that we are tested on for a fitness test. i could crank out 80 in two minutes but form had to be perfect.when it came to bench(at that time) i could only do like 180 when i was 140-150. like B.S said it has alot to do with muscular endurance not strength.
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