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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Morning Cardio

    When talking 'bout before-breakie-cardio, will a simple walk be sufficient....... or would it be best to go for a run or an early morning HIIT session??



    Have to admit, i would prefer the walk!
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    I am in the military so I have the benifit of "forced" morning cardio. I usually run 4-8 miles a day. According to evrything I have read, though, a brisk walk for 45-60 min is just as good as a run. Now if you do deceide to run, keep in mind that interval runs( ex: sprinting for 1 min and jogging for 30 sec. for a total of 20-30 min) is as good or better than a long, continuos pace run. Hope this helps.

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    Higher intensity = more effort but less time doing cardio.
    Lower intensity = less effort but more time doing cardio.
    I hate cardio so I go for higher intensity and get it over with. I have had good success doing cardio first thing in the am as long as I take BCAAs before I start. Cardio without the BCAAs = muscle waisting for me.
    Last edited by gopher; 12-26-2002 at 02:31 AM.

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    Go for HIT. It's the best you can do. You lose fat and you don't waste muscle mass.
    Sprint for 10-15 sec, then jog/walk for 60-90 sec and repeat it for 6-7 times. Take a 5 sec rest after each sprint.

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    if you've done HIIT correctly tho, you should be sh1te for the rest of the day.

    so i would suggest low endurance, unless you are only planning to wake up do cardio and then go back to bed.
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    Originally posted by Tryska
    if you've done HIIT correctly tho, you should be sh1te for the rest of the day.

    so i would suggest low endurance, unless you are only planning to wake up do cardio and then go back to bed.
    I learnt this the hard way!

    I decided to give HIIT a go @ 5:30 this morning....... i am now absolutely shattered!!!

    .......Definately think i'll be headin' back to bed!

    Good workout though!!
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    Yes, over the past few weeks I have learned HIIT is by far the best fat burning thing to do...also I have been using two and a half pound weights strapped to each ankle, this also helps out alot.

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    ..to colapse faster, lol!

    I really believe it too Bostek.

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    Originally posted by Bostek
    I have been using two and a half pound weights strapped to each ankle, this also helps out alot.
    Goodness gracious me!!! Do you do sprints with those strapped on Bos???

    hmmm, i don't think i'll be attempting that....... at least not in the near future anywayz!!
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    Just remember.....HIIT is glycogen fueled. Eat first.

    Be careful with ankle weights.....they can cause joint issues while running.
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    Originally posted by PowerManDL
    Just remember.....HIIT is glycogen fueled. Eat first.


    Oh, i just get so confused with the whole: "to eat or not to eat" debate!!

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    Doesn't have to be a lot, Renee.

    Just a few grams of carbs to get you through it.

    If you were doing endurance work I'd say no.....but HIIT uses a different method of obtaining energy (glycolysis) that is fueled by carbs.
    Last edited by PowerManDL; 12-26-2002 at 10:41 PM.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    a piece of fruit perhaps???
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    A banana or something would be fine, yeah.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    Cool, thanx
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    Also, take a look at that thread Bradley posted.

    Its got most of my thoughts on cardio. You'll probably find some interesting info in it.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    Yea man, I use the weight's cause they help build strength in my legs. This is my 10th season of football, the past 4 seasons I have played I have started fullback. And I have never been what you call a "fat" kid, I just always had a small gut. Never above 185...Im 5'10 almost 5'11. These help to add mass, and strength to my legs, and help burn the fat a bit faster. Thx to my good buddy Jim, he gave me this tip...works great.

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    Still, there's better ways to add mass and burn fat. Ankle weights just aren't that sound biomechanically; you're setting yourself up for an injury using them to sprint.

    If you want to add weight, a vest is a much better choice.
    Vin Diesel has a fever.. and the only prescription is more cowbell.

    Budiak: That girl I maced
    Budiak: macked
    Budiak: heh maced
    Budiak: I wish

    ShmrckPmp5: a good thing people can't fire guns through the computer...your ass would have been shot years ago

    Y2A 47: youre smooth as hell
    Y2A 47: thats why you get outta tickets, and into panties

    galileo: you're a fucking beast and I hate you
    galileo: hate

    assgrabbers are never subtile, they will grabb ass whereever they go,public or not, I know the type, because I am one. - Rock

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    i was gonna sya exactly what dl said when i saw that ankle weight post.

    use a vest. or you could wind up crippled at 35.
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    Okay I have read all the post and now I am even more confused than before I read anything. Basicially I am looking for a conclusion to this thread as well as the link that bradley posted.

    I know that HIIT is the best for fat burning and that time of the day you train doesn't really matter, so I don't need more info on that but more specifically your opinions on maximizing fat burning and minimize muscle catabolisim and the timing of meals.

    Here are some of my questions:

    1. When should you eat or drink before doing HIIT?
    2. What should you eat before HIIT?
    3. When should you eat or drink after doing HIIT?
    4. What should you eat after HIIT?
    5. If using supplement like an ECA stack and creatine what would the proper timing to take those be?
    Last edited by AJ_11; 12-30-2002 at 02:13 AM.

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    i ran 6 kilometres today on soft sand with two 500 metre full pace sprints included at the fourth K and the final 500 ms.

    At the end, i just fall into the ocean.

    I am really tired from the sun now.

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    Originally posted by Shocker
    with two 500 metre full pace sprints
    Sheesh Shocker!! I struggle with 50m sprints!! Ace workout
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    Originally posted by PowerManDL
    Still, there's better ways to add mass and burn fat. Ankle weights just aren't that sound biomechanically; you're setting yourself up for an injury using them to sprint.

    If you want to add weight, a vest is a much better choice.
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    I've had to xray several people who had developed joint problems from using ankle weights while jogging. It's a really bad idea.

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