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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    A Westside Odyssey...Day 46

    General Comments
    Well, Mom and Dad made it out here and made it back just fine. Nicole and I had a great time with them out here. We went and looked at 5 or 6 houses and found three that we liked. Plus I found another one today that we want to go and look at. We are actually going to go inside the houses we liked on Wednesday with our realtor. It's a very exciting time for us.

    Training

    ME bench press

    2 Board Press w/ doubled mini's
    1 / 45 / 10
    2 / 95 / 3
    3 / 135 / 3
    4 / 155 / 3
    5 / 185 / miss
    6 / 185 / miss

    These were really good sets. This is the first time I have used my bands on ME day. I did complete the 185 reps, but I had to have a VERY slight spot on both so they don't count. I will get it next time. I was that close.

    Elbows-out Skulls
    1 / 70 / 10
    2 / 70 / 9
    3 / 70 / 7
    4 / 70 / 7

    Very good sets. Very short rest periods. These will certainly be a good at least temporary replacement for Tri pushdowns.

    Dips
    1 / bw / 8
    2 / bw / 7.5f
    3 / bw / 6.5f
    4 / bw / 7

    Wow, these were very hard. Tri's were dead.

    DB Lat Raise
    1 / 20 / 15
    2 / 20 / 12
    3 / 20 / 12

    Good sets here, strict.

    1 Arm DB Row
    1 / 70 / 10
    2 / 70 / 10
    3 / 70 / 8

    These were tough as well. My back was bothering me a little keeping myself stable on these.

    BB Curl
    1 / 70 / 8

    I had absolutely nothing left.

    Training Recap
    I am officially back today. This was the first workout where I was totallly into it and felt like I was back where I belong. Now on to progress!!!!

    Pain/Soreness
    Hams still, tri's

    Diet
    See last entry, pretty much the same as I got a little ahead of myself. That was supposed to be here.

    LATER,

    NateDogg
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Hey just checkin out the journal

    How you like westside so far? I dont know if I can handle those good morning thingy's, but I wouldnt mind trying some of the other westside stuff, like board presses. Those look like fun
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    22OCT04 = 960 Total - Bench 275, Squat 305, Deadlift 380

    Most push-ups in one minute = 102 (BW:195lbs)

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    Originally posted by Kenn
    Hey just checkin out the journal

    How you like westside so far? I dont know if I can handle those good morning thingy's, but I wouldnt mind trying some of the other westside stuff, like board presses. Those look like fun
    It's kickin' my ass the workouts are quite long, but I love it! Thanks for stopping by!
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Well, ME sq/dl tonight. I'm psyched to get to the gym. We put a bid in on a house today that we really liked. I just heard before I left work for the night that we lost it. We went in 10,000 under and someone else went in at the exact same time at the asking price. So...back to the drawing board! Damn, houses are absolutely flying off the market around here!
    "damn...can't beat logic like that.
    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    So teh back is ace now? My leg/back/glute whatever the f*ck it is, is almost healed. Physical therapy is ace.

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    Originally posted by heathj
    So teh back is ace now? My leg/back/glute whatever the f*ck it is, is almost healed. Physical therapy is ace.
    Glad to hear it heath! Yeah, mine is nearly 100%. I think I'm more careful with it now form wise, but it almost never bothers me. The only time it does bother me is when I'm golfing, and that goes away shortly after a round.
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    A Westside Odyssey...Day 47

    General Comments
    Well, I've just about gotten over the fact that we didn't get the house we wanted. I think moreso than losing the house we wanted, we now have to start looking again. We haven't been looking that long, but I'm a "Type A" personality for sure...so I want a house...NOW! Oh well, this has all been great experience so far.
    Training

    ME sq/dl

    GM's
    1 / 45 / 12
    2 / 95 / 7
    3 / 135 / 5
    4 / 185 / 3
    5 / 205 / 3
    6 / 135 / 8

    Good PB here.

    DEEP Squats
    1 / 185 / 10
    2 / 185 / 10
    3 / 185 / 10

    These absolutely killed my legs, ass and back.

    Lat Pull-down (close-grip)
    1 / 135 / 10
    2 / 165 / 8
    3 / 155 / 7
    4 / 155 / 5

    Good sets here as well, very short rests.

    Swiss-Ball Crunch
    1 / bw / 12
    2 / bw / 12
    3 / bw / 12


    Ouch.


    Training Recap
    Took out some frustration with this one. I'm paying for it today (5/10)...

    Pain/Soreness
    Oh boy, glutes, quads, hams, posterior chain...really sore.

    Diet
    It's been quite good lately really. We've been eating out alot, but I usually forder healthy stuff. We just have to eat out less due to the cost factor.

    LATER,

    NateDogg
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Originally posted by NateDogg


    Glad to hear it heath! Yeah, mine is nearly 100%. I think I'm more careful with it now form wise, but it almost never bothers me. The only time it does bother me is when I'm golfing, and that goes away shortly after a round.
    Good to hear...If you think about it positively like that, it's almost a good thing to get injured, as long as it can be healed. Makes you pay more attention to form and making sure you're doing everything right, as to not f*ck yourself up again. Maybe it'll help us make insane gains now, with perfect form?

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    I'll buy that. It certainly lessens the feeling of invincibility that many of us "younger" guys have.
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Originally posted by heathj


    Good to hear...If you think about it positively like that, it's almost a good thing to get injured, as long as it can be healed. Makes you pay more attention to form and making sure you're doing everything right, as to not f*ck yourself up again. Maybe it'll help us make insane gains now, with perfect form?
    Hey ND, what did you do for your back? Did you just take it easy or did you do some some light work or what?
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    Originally posted by dkliewer


    Hey ND, what did you do for your back? Did you just take it easy or did you do some some light work or what?
    I had a sacroiliac strain. I got some physical therapy, then took it easy for a few weeks. I was still lifting, just much lighter. Since then (that was last November or so if I remember right) I have been training Westside, which of course revolves substantially around having a strong back and core in general to support the major lifts. I believe this training, along with being much more strict with my form has helped me immensely (sp?).
    "damn...can't beat logic like that.
    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    A Westside Odyssey...Day 48

    General Comments
    Nicole and I lifted back in my hometown this morning. Great workout. We were home visiting family for Mother's Day and my Gram's birthday. Had a great time. I am lucky to have such a great, healthy and close family!

    Training

    DE bench press

    Speed Bench with Doubled Mini Bands
    1 / 45 / 10
    2 / 95 / 3
    3 / 105 / 3
    4 / 105 / 3
    5 / 105 / 3
    6 / 135 / 1
    7 / 185 / miss, see below
    8 / 45 / 1

    well, these were quite difficult. The bench at my gym back in my hometown is higher than the one at my current gym. It really made these quite difficult and the 185 attempt a laugher.

    Elbows Out Skulls
    1 / 75 / 10
    2 / 75 / 7
    3 / 75 / 7
    4 / 75 / 7

    I was quite happy with these. I really like them with elbows out.

    JM Press
    1 / 95 / 10
    2 / 95 / 9
    3 / 95 / 8
    4 / 95 / 8

    These were awesome. I had not done them for a little while.

    DB Pullovers on Swiss-Ball
    1 / 55 / 10
    2 / 55 / 10
    3 / 55 / 10
    4 / 55 / 9

    Good strict form, really hurt.

    I threw in a couple sets of biceps curls at the end with two of those surgical tubing bands really stretched out.

    Training Recap
    Like I said before, great workout.

    Pain/Soreness
    Oh man, my quads are STILL killing me! Also sore now is my right hip. My Dad has had some hip problems and he showed me some stretches and stuff I can do. I may also request a swiss-ball to sit on as my chair at work.

    Diet
    I actually did pretty well this past weekend. Especially considering that we had a birthday/Mother's Day party. I am actually starting to get a little upset about how I look, so I am going to find a way to add some HIIT into my routine. If even only on weekends or something.

    LATER,

    NateDogg
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Originally posted by NateDogg
    I actually did pretty well this past weekend. Especially considering that we had a birthday/Mother's Day party. I am actually starting to get a little upset about how I look, so I am going to find a way to add some HIIT into my routine. If even only on weekends or something.
    Yeah I know how you feel. I think I am going to have to start cutting, unfortunately

    You seem to have an in shape family as well. That must have been some bike ride for your parents. Do they compete in races or anything?

    Looks like you are getting back into the routine nicely

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    Totally.

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    Thanks guys. Yeah, they are in excellent shape. They compete in many triathlons, marathons and I do adventure races with them. They have never done a bike only race though. It's really great to have very fitness oriented parents.
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Well, no workout tonight. My hips, right and left now, really hurt. I have to look into what's going on there. Some big news though! Nicole and I bought a house today! Pending inspection of course. We are really excited. Lots of stuff to do now in as short a time as possible. I cannot wait to be relieved of paying rent and getting nothing back for it.

    Time to go and research what's up with my hips. Any ideas anyone? Any of you other Westside guys get hip pain? I'm figuring it's from squatting like a powerlifter and doing GM's with a huge emphasis on hips back, hips forward. Anyone have any ideas for treatment?
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    A Westside Odyssey...Day 49

    General Comments
    We took the next step in buying the house tonight. Signed some of the initial papers and set up a tentative date to have it inspected.

    Training

    DE squat/deadlift

    Box Squat, Reebok step with 5 "blocks" per side
    1 / 45 / 12
    2 / 135 / 2
    3 / 135 / 2
    4 / 135 / 2
    5 / 135 / 2
    6 / 135 / 2
    7 / 135 / 3
    8 / 185 / 3
    9 / 225 / 2
    10 / 225 / 2

    It was great to do these again after it has been quite some time. Good speed, felt strong. My hips felt fine for the most part. I moved my stance in just a bit. That might have helped.

    Hyper-extensions
    1 / bw+35 / 10
    2 / bw+35 / 10
    3 / bw+35 / 10
    4 / bw+35 / 10

    Holy $hit, these are very tough when done correctly, huh? My hams were screaming during the last couple sets!

    Chest Supported Row
    1 / 90 / 10
    2 / 90 / 9
    3 / 90 / 7
    4 / 90 / 7

    Good to get back to these again as well.


    Training Recap
    Good workout.

    Pain/Soreness
    Tri's a little sore, chest sore, my right hip still hurts a bit, but is recovering it seems. Maybe I just need to get back into the swing of things still. Moving my stance in a bit did seem to help though.

    Diet
    Still going quite strong.

    LATER,

    NateDogg
    Last edited by NateDogg; 05-15-2003 at 07:47 PM.
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    I once lost myself.


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    A Westside Odyssey...Day 50

    General Comments
    The Red Sox are back on Fox television today! Kick a$$! We don't have cable here at my house, so I only get to watch them when they are on channels our antenna gets. We'll probably get cable when we move. Mostly because I miss hockey.

    Training

    ME bench press

    Incline Press
    1 / 45 / 12
    2 / 115 / 5
    3 / 135 / 3
    4 / 155 / 3
    5 / 185 / miss
    6 / 185 / miss
    7 / 185 / miss

    Argh, I hate incline press and I really suck at it.

    Elbows-out Skulls
    1 / 75 / 10
    2 / 75 / 9
    3 / 75 / 8
    4 / 75 / 8

    Very good sets. Very short rest periods.

    Tri-Pushdowns
    1 / 55 / 10
    2 / 55 / 10
    3 / 55 / 10
    4 / 55 / 10

    I figured I would lower the weight a bit and give these another shot, slowing the reps down and using better form. I don't hate them now.

    Pull-Ups
    1 / bw / 8
    2 / bw / 5
    3 / bw / 4
    4 / bw / 3.5f

    Fat a$$.

    DB Lat Raise
    1 / 15 / 15
    2 / 15 / 15
    3 / 15 / 15

    Nearly non-existant rest periods here. My shoulders were really killed by these.

    Training Recap
    Good workout.

    Pain/Soreness
    Hams a little sore, that's it though.

    Diet
    I'll be home all day today so it should be pretty good again.

    LATER,

    NateDogg
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    May 19, 2003

    A Westside Odyssey...Day 51

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    Wow, what a contrast and lesson in what lifting can do for you all in one day. I had a $hitty day at work today, nothing went right, I got a salad with half rotten veggies in it, had a stomach ache and headache most of the day. I got home, put my gym stuff on, but never really felt that I had planned on going. Well, I sucked it up and went, and it certainly paid off. My day, general feeling and attituted turned 180 degrees. Ok, enough of the corniness...
    Training

    ME sq/dl

    Sumo Deads
    1 / 45 / 12
    2 / 135 / 5
    3 / 185 / 3
    4 / 225 / 3
    5 / 315 / 1
    6 / 365 / 1 (belted)
    7 / 400 / miss (grip failed) (belted)
    8 / 400 / miss (tired) (belted)

    Well, I ordered chalk at www.ironmind.com today with this lift in mind, and I certainly could have used it tonight. I had the first attempt at 400 off the floor and up pretty quickly, but had the quickest vision of the bar slipping out of my ever-opening grip and breaking both of my knee-caps on the way down and I just could not lock it out after that. Hurry Chalk...HURRY!!!!

    Glute/Ham/Calf Raise
    1 / bw / 9.5f
    2 / bw / 8
    3 / bw / 7 + 1 negative
    4 / bw / 6 + 1 negative
    5 / bw / 5 + 1 negative

    Great to get back to these.

    Lat Pull-down (close-grip)
    1 / 150 / 11
    2 / 150 / 8
    3 / 150 / 6

    Good sets here as well, very short rests.

    Decline Crunches
    1 / bw / 20
    2 / bw / 20
    3 / bw / 20

    Great sets, really hit the abbies hard.

    Training Recap
    Great workout, like I said, a turning point in the day.

    Pain/Soreness
    Tri's a little sore, lats a little sore, nother major though.

    Diet
    Wow, I think I had about 2000 calories today. NOT GOOD, but nothing I can do about it now other than go have my shake and make up some grub for tomorrow...

    LATER,

    NateDogg
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    I always have a vision of my feet slipping and me doing a full split with the BB pulling me to the floor on a sumo LOL thats why I do them inside the squat rack with my feet braced against the sides of the cage....funny how the mind works

    I havent used chalk yet, (course I amnot hitting 400 yet), does chalk really help that much on slippage? Is it different for everyone when they need it as far as poundages go on the dead?
    I dont sweat very much, so is that a factor?
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    Hey Kenn,

    What kind of shoes are you deadlifting in? I always use my Chucks and I never have the feeling of my feet slipping out. I see your point though, just that one moment and your F**ked.

    I'll let you know on the chalk. I'm banking on it helping at least a little. I'm not sure how much difference the amount of sweat would make. Others would be able to help you more on that for now I'm sure.

    Thanks for dropping by!
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    Originally posted by NateDogg
    Glute/Ham/Calf Raise
    1 / bw / 9.5f
    2 / bw / 8
    3 / bw / 7 + 1 negative
    4 / bw / 6 + 1 negative
    5 / bw / 5 + 1 negative
    Hey ND, how do you do these? Do you have a glute ham raise or do you do them some other way?

    The chalk should help you significantly. I've failed with reps of six, used chalk and got it even when my hands weren't sweaty. It just really helps get a good grip on the bar.
    Squat - 505
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    Deadlift - 550
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    Hey DK. I can try to find some video for you, but I do the GHR on a swiss ball, with my feet anchored under the "spotter stand" if you will, on the back of an incline bench. They are insane on the hammies!

    That's good to know about the chalk...400 WILL BE MINE!
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    Thanks for describing the lift, but I don't think I could do it in my gym. It's pretty packed. I don't think there is enough room behind any of the spotter's platforms for a swiss ball.
    Squat - 505
    Bench - 325
    Deadlift - 550
    Total - 1380@175

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