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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    abs?

    Is it better to have abs as a part of every work out, or to treat them like any other muscle and give them their own particular day?
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    Re: abs?

    Originally posted by micro machine
    Is it better to have abs as a part of every work out, or to treat them like any other muscle and give them their own particular day?
    They don't need their own particular day. IMO, no muscle "needs" it's own day. That said, don't do them every workout. They need to recover too.
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    I do them once a week on back day.
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    i do them once a week too, on back n bicep day (i do 3 day split)....i would say if u were gonna do em more than once a week, giv a couple day rest between...but if u do it only once a week, go all out on em like u do the rest ur body
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    I'm working mine twice a week on Max OT, on Tuesdays and Fridays.
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    Off topic (sort-of). Are Sit-ups a semi-efficent way to work the abs?
    If you don't understand the problem, how will you devise a solution?

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    Originally posted by cuebol
    Off topic (sort-of). Are Sit-ups a semi-efficent way to work the abs?
    Why would you want to do a "semi-efficient" movement? Crunches are better than sit-ups...do those.
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    They don't need their own day and once per week hard and heavy like any other muscle is the best way to go IMO.

    I like training them on the swiss ball and use a plate behind the head to make me fail at about 10 reps

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    I do them on leg day.. weighted decline crunch with plate behnd head.. once a week, and heavy. Just like everything else.
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    So I should rep till failure?
    If you don't understand the problem, how will you devise a solution?

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    Originally posted by cuebol
    So I should rep till failure?
    if u rep to failure the best of ur body as well...keep it all coordinated
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    Originally posted by Skillz


    if u rep to failure the best of ur body as well...keep it all coordinated
    Skillz
    Could be just me, but.....huh?
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    Originally posted by Shao-LiN


    Could be just me, but.....huh?
    It's not just you.

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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    wat i mean is, if u work every other body part to failure, then work out ur abs to failure too

    but if u dont work out ur other body parts to failure, then dont work out ur abs to failure either

    lol
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    Originally posted by Skillz
    wat i mean is, if u work every other body part to failure, then work out ur abs to failure too

    but if u dont work out ur other body parts to failure, then dont work out ur abs to failure either

    lol
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    Why?
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    lol....its just an opinion, it would be personal preference...it was just a suggestion like sayin "u should work out shoulders n chest rather than back n chest"....i personally like to go to failure on everythin...n if idont go to failure on most body parts, i'll just do it for the rest...like to keep my whole body even, or at least make it feel like that
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    Originally posted by Skillz
    lol....its just an opinion, it would be personal preference...it was just a suggestion like sayin "u should work out shoulders n chest rather than back n chest"....i personally like to go to failure on everythin...n if idont go to failure on most body parts, i'll just do it for the rest...like to keep my whole body even, or at least make it feel like that
    Skillz
    Fair enough
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    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    A lot of people like train abs several times a week with high reps, but I think abs should be trained with heavy resistance, low reps, and higher sets. A Swiss ball is an excellent idea in that it places less stress on your lower back and it allows you to perform crunches through a full range of motion by bending backwards 15 degrees. Crunches done in this manner will produce stronger, more functional abs. Flat surfaces and the ground don't allow this backwards bend. Just my opinion...

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    you cant build muscle without some weight.
    you wont get big biceps by lifting a pencil 1 million times so why would that be the case for abs.

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    Lifting a pencil will give u a headache, but lifting a light weight high reps on concentration curls will give u a nice round bicep.

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    as for abs, the best thing so far for me are the crunches done using a cable.

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    i've been reading these forums and seems like weighted decline crunches seem to be the favored exercise...there was an article on abs on the home page before...

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    Originally posted by cuebol
    So I should rep till failure?
    if you faluire trianing works for other body parts then yes. as long as you fail in similar rep range to other body parts.

    abs grew like other muscles.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Light weight high rep curls won't shape your bi any different, Venom. The only way you can change that, is being born with different parents. Genetics determine what it looks like.

    And I agree with the others. If you do failure training for the rest of the body, do so for abs. If you don't, don't do so for abs.

    Like body said, abs grow like any other muscle.
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    Originally posted by VENOM
    Lifting a pencil will give u a headache, but lifting a light weight high reps on concentration curls will give u a nice round bicep.
    Where'd you hear that?
    Shao-LiN
    "I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end, it doesn't even matter." - Linkin Park

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