The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Sweet. I'll probably order a Single-ply Titan. I wish I could get it two weeks in time for my meet.
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    I think some people are having problems realizing that powerlifting is a sport, and that this equipment is a part of it.

    It has nothing to do with bodybuilding, so you can't apply the same values to it. All that matters is the amount you put up that is approved by judges using whatever you can within the limit of the rules.

    So saying you prefer to bench raw in the context of powerlifting doesn't really mean much, since this equipment is part of the sport. It's like an outfielder saying he'd prefer to play without a glove, sure he could do it, but he wouldn't be as effective and probably wouldn't go anywhere in the sport.
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    Originally posted by ElPietro
    I think some people are having problems realizing that powerlifting is a sport, and that this equipment is a part of it.

    It has nothing to do with bodybuilding, so you can't apply the same values to it. All that matters is the amount you put up that is approved by judges using whatever you can within the limit of the rules.

    So saying you prefer to bench raw in the context of powerlifting doesn't really mean much, since this equipment is part of the sport. It's like an outfielder saying he'd prefer to play without a glove, sure he could do it, but he wouldn't be as effective and probably wouldn't go anywhere in the sport.
    This says it better than I could have done. Great post.

    Oh, and Chris Mason, you are absolutely correct. The shirt I wear in a contest does help a lot. I don't know if I came accross as saying the shirt does not help. I did not mean to come accross that way. If I did, I was wrong. Shirts help you bench more if you know how to use them and train to aid in the parts of the lift where the shirt does not help, which is about the top half of so of the press, for me.

    It takes about 500 for me to touch in my tightest competition shirt. The reason the shirt helps is that the shirt is compressing my body and squeezing my shoulders together on the way down. This has 2 effects. The squeezed shoulders do not tend to get hurt as often as they otherwise would, and also, your body tends to want to return to its former shape, thus helping you rebound out of the bottom of the press, which is by far the hardest part of the press when going RAW (shirtless).

    And to whomever out there it was that thinks that going double bodyweight plus in the bench is not impressive merely because the presser was wearing a shirt, try to put 2.3 times your bodyweight on the bar and even hold it at arm's length with your elbows locked. I bet not many here can do that.

    And the ones who can are rarely going to be the ones talking smack about it.

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    Originally posted by xpack
    this is the worst form of cheating there is.
    How is it cheating, if it's within the rules of the organazition?

    Because you say it is?

    Nothing pisses me off more than statements like this.

    What you're saying is absurd. To steal from ELp's analogy, saying bench shirts are cheating is like saying a baseball player using a mitt is cheating. Sure, he couldn't catch as many or as diffcult balls, and he'd hurt his hand without it, but legal=not cheating.

    Now if you called someone that snuck a blast shirt under his t shirt at a raw meet a cheater, I'd be right there with you.
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    I'm gonna order the fury, but I was wondering if I should get the normal fit or the competiton fit. Which one?
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    comp fit.
    The comp fit is just a size smaller then the normal fit.
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    Bench...- 303..........................Bench....- 300....Paused in meet - 281
    Deadlift.- 503.....Unofficial 513...Deadlift..- 490
    Total....- 1,203...IPF Class II......All done raw, Touch'n go bench

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