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    THE TIME IS AT HAND! BEHOLD THE REVELATION...



    I AM NOW ON LYLE MCDONALD'S TOP-SECRET DIET/TRAINING PLAN!


    Hell yeah!

    I'm sure many of you could give a flying f*ck, but to people like myself, who esteem Lyle as one of the foremost thinkers in diet/exercise, this is pretty goddamn awesome.

    Anyways, I had several email exchanges with Lyle about bromocriptine, during the course of which I mentioned some of my previous experiences with dieting and refeeds. He then offered to let me be a guinea pig for his current diet/training scheme. The only condition was that since it will be the subject of his next book, I can't really talk about it here. Not the training. Not the diet. At least not in any sort of specific detail. So, my journal is gonna be pretty empty from now on. No meal by meal breakdown. No detailed synopses of my gym sessions. I'll still write about what I'm doing but it'll be more subjective and vague.

    Anyways, I do have some trepidation about all of this. Lyle's plan goes against much of what I've come to believe (and what I thought Lyle believed) about training and diet. It's a fairly extreme approach IMO, and it includes a number of things which coming from anyone else, I would have dismissed out of hand(and I would have assumed Lyle would have as well) as being counterproductive. It may also be incompatible with bromocriptine. I took 3.75mg of bromo on Monday morning, when I started the new program. About an hour after my workout, I started sweating, trembling, having nausea and severe headache. Basically, as far as I can figure, I went into hypoglycemia. I had some dextrose, but my symptoms did not immediately abate. I threw up about an hour later and felt like complete sh*t for another 3-4 hours. Hypoglycemia is NOT fun. I cut out bromo yesterday, but started back up on it today at a reduced dose of 1.25mg. I'll will see if it's possible to integrate it with Lyle's approach. If not, I'll have to save the stuff for later. Even Lyle admitted he didn't know if the new approach sans bromo(but with EC) would be more or less effective than my old one with bromo. Another drawback, is that I have to ditch HST, which is another difficult thing for me to do. It IS nice to try something a bit different after 7 months of the pretty much the same thing, though. So, basically I'm making a sh*tload of changes to what I'm doing. Whether this will lead to better results than I otherwise would've had is hard for me to say. I think my previous approach was working quite well(particularly with the addition of bromocriptine) If I can't use the bromo, that will be a signficant downside(along with a few others) Really, though, this opportunity was just to good to pass up. And who knows, it might finally allow me to get lean. One can only hope.

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    You are no longer just a tease. You are a lucky tease!

    Damnit! I wanna know what this secret diet/workout plan is!

    Lyle e-mail me! I'll be a guinea pig too damnit!

    Anyways good luck Blood buddy ole pal. I hope you get lean as fvck!

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    Congrats on the opportunity. I shall miss the content unless you really are going to submit other non-related tibbits of information. Sounds like you able to tell us about barfing you guts out at least.

    I hope this works out for you and maybe we'll all benefit once Lyle publishes.

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    ROFL, oh man - I usually wait until I'm on the freeway to do that. What an idiot! -teufy doing what he does best.

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    I take it this is a fat-loss diet plan then, since this is Lyle.

    Has he mentioned when the book will be available and whether it'll be another e-book (which i quite detest) ??
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    Originally posted by rookiebldr
    Congrats on the opportunity. I shall miss the content unless you really are going to submit other non-related tibbits of information. Sounds like you able to tell us about barfing you guts out at least.
    Thanks.

    Hopefully there will be no more barfing. I'll still working out how much I can reveal without giving things away. I don't think I'll be able to say much, unfortunately. But there should be enough to keep people entertained--I hope so, anyways.


    I hope this works out for you and maybe we'll all benefit once Lyle publishes.
    So do I. It'll be interesting to see how things turn out

    We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.

    Parables and Portraits, Stephen Mitchell

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    Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
    I take it this is a fat-loss diet plan then, since this is Lyle.
    Yes, of course. I'm still dieting.


    Has he mentioned when the book will be available and whether it'll be another e-book (which i quite detest) ??
    Nope. He just sent me an email which detailed what I am to do, and which appeared to be an excerpt from the book. I haven't asked him when the book might be coming out or in what format.

    We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.

    Parables and Portraits, Stephen Mitchell

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    Start a new thread.

    This ain't gonna be 'absolute dedication' in the way you had it before.

    May as well call it the "general comments journal"
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    Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
    Start a new thread.

    This ain't gonna be 'absolute dedication' in the way you had it before.

    May as well call it the "general comments journal"
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    We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.

    Parables and Portraits, Stephen Mitchell

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    oh, it must be great to be mod. Just move things around eh.

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    ROFL, oh man - I usually wait until I'm on the freeway to do that. What an idiot! -teufy doing what he does best.

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    Originally posted by rookiebldr
    oh, it must be great to be mod. Just move things around eh.
    Yeah. And I can edit other people posts into requests for child porn and crack. 'Tis great fun.

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    Originally posted by Blood&Iron

    Yeah. And I can edit other people posts into requests for child porn and crack. 'Tis great fun.
    Oh even better. I'll remember not to get on your bad side.

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    lol...
    you divulge less info than the bush admin.

    so let us in your specific goals B&I

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    Originally posted by the doc
    lol...
    you divulge less info than the bush admin.

    so let us in your specific goals B&I
    Yeah, my first post is a bit lacking in details. I'll be posting a bit more than this, hopefully. In any event, I'm still trying to drop weight while maintaining as much muscle as possible. I'm hoping for about 1-2lbs of fat loss every 2 weeks, with minimal loss of lbm. I've leaned up a decent bit in the last three weeks since starting 'Absolute Dedication' and hopefully will have some pics taken this next weekend for 'before' pics and so people can see what kind of progress(or lack of progress) I've made since my previous pic(which is from over a year ago.)

    While it's not a physique photo, here's a photo taken last Saturday. I've always thought I possibly had higher than normal estrogen levels due to the fact I carry a disproportionate amount of fat on my legs for a man, and I think this photo confirms this. Anyways, here it is:
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    Good god, he's been transformed into a swedish bimbo.
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    Originally posted by Maki Riddington
    Good god, he's been transformed into a swedish bimbo.
    Dutch, actually. Didn't you see the little hat?

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    LOL, Oh my God, it's my wife with larger calves! I thought I told her to burn the hat. Now I know where it went.
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    Originally posted by rookiebldr
    LOL, Oh my God, it's my wife with larger calves! I thought I told her to burn the hat. Now I know where it went.
    Damn. You must have a hot wife if she looks like me, cuz I'm a fine piece of ass.

    Actually, I bought the hat. And the wig. The rest of the costume was rental(which the store had to piece together from odds and ends since none of the women's costumes were big enough)

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    I've been severely underwhelmed by the response to my first new picture in over 7 months. Perhaps, I will not bother having any progress photos taken. So there.

    I think I'm damn sexy, no matter what anyone else thinks. Pfft!

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    Interesting.

    Big fella in a dress.

    Just what I needed this morning, thanks.

    Good luck with what Lyle is doing. If anything, it will be well researched... I doubt he'll steer you wrong.
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    Originally posted by ElPietro
    Happy Halloween...little girl. *waves candy*
    For some reason, I find your response extremely disturbing.

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    Originally posted by Paul Stagg
    Interesting.

    Big fella in a dress.

    Just what I needed this morning, thanks.
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    Good luck with what Lyle is doing. If anything, it will be well researched... I doubt he'll steer you wrong.
    Thanks. I already feel a bit leaner so I'm very optimistic about the whole thing.

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    Your calves look fcuking impressive, man.
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    Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
    Your calves look fcuking impressive, man.
    Danke schön.

    But the more important question is: how are my breasts?

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    Hard to tell. You'll have to post some more photos.

    Your neck looks thick too, though.
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