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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Dr. Feelgood

    What is up everyone on here? For quite sometime I have wanted to start a journal on here to inform people what it is I do every minuet of every day year round: Try to get bigger. My current stats are as follows:

    Age: 21
    Weight: 230 lbs
    BF: 9%
    Heigth: 6'1''
    Years lifting:3.5
    Years I've known what the f&c$ i was doing:2.5 (assuming I do now which is no guarentee)
    Pitbulls currently owned: 1 (and yes she is cute as hell)
    Motorcycles crashed: 2
    Times I've crashed when trying to impress a girl (2) (includes cars also)

    I weighed 178 pounds about 3 years ago when i decided to start putting on mass, in that time I have gained 52 pounds, WOW, thats a lot now that i think about it, anyway I am constantly reading, researching, schooling, eating, and of course training. I am commonly in the gym for about 2.5-3 hours, 3.5 on legs day. I'm sure I will get bombarded with "you're overtraining" comments, but I will deal with that when it comes.
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    let me be the first to
    JEEP is a 4 letter word, therefore it must be dirty.

    This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
    This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion...

    I am addicted to fast food...

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    I will be posting my experiences in the gym on here quite often, my diet techniques, my splits, pics when I get some, and current goals. I consider my self fairly educated in the supplement world so I am sure I can try to answer just about common questains you may have. To catch up on my training

    Monday:
    Chest
    Incline DB: 4 sets, 1 with 85's, 3 with 90's
    Low dips: 1 set of 12 no weight, 3 sets of 6 with 40 lb DB
    Falt DB press , not worth mentioning due to chest tiredness from low dips! (needless to say light weight high reps, like 75's and 80's)
    Fly machine 1 arm warm-up with 225 lbs 8 each arm
    DB flys 2 sets with 55's 2 sets with 60's, 8 reps each
    Pullovers: set 1: warmup, set 2: 85 lb DB for 12, set 3: 90 lb DB 10 reps, set 4: same, set 5: 100 lb DB for 6 reps

    Traps.
    Upright rows 4 sets of 7 reps each with 115lbs on barbell
    barbell shruggs
    set 1 275 for 9
    set 2 275 for 9
    set 3 295 for 8
    set 4 275 for 9

    Incline DB shruggs
    3 sets of 8 with 85 lb DB's

    Tuesday
    Back and Abs

    Back:

    Hammer row
    set 1: 3 45's each side 8 each arm ( I do pull mu elbow all the way back for full contraction)
    set 2: 3 45's +25 each side 8 each arm
    set 3: 4 45's each side 6 each arm
    set 4 same weight but 4 each arm
    set 5 (drop) 3 45's each side go until it burms real bad, which was 7 reps each arm

    lying barbell rows
    sets 1-4 185 lbs 6 reps each time ( the weight felt good, and it is a bitch to add any weight on this thing, it wants to fall over)

    Hammer pulldown
    Set 1: 2 45's each side 12 reps
    Set 2: 2 45's and 1 25 each side double armed 6 reps, strip down to 2 45's each side continue 6 1 arm reps each side
    Set 3: same as set 2
    Set 4: see set 3


    1 armed T bar rows
    Set 1: 2 45's 8 reps each arm
    Set 2 : 2 45's + 25 6 reps each arm
    Set 3: 3 45's 4 each arm

    1 arm DB rows
    Set 1: 100 lb db 10 each arm (enter B.C. enthusiasm returns!)
    Set 2: 115 lb DB 9 each arm
    Set 3: 115 lb db 6 each arm

    Abs:
    Abs are abs, and abs suck! about 20 minuets of misc. ab stuff, you all know the drill.

    later
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    no spam here m8, im a uber noob so mebbe ill learn somethign from readin your journal :P

    good luck
    LHA 4 LIFE

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    What the hell was that? ERRRR

    My brekfast:
    3 pieces of whole wheat toast, 2 LIGHTLY buttered
    1 banana
    2 whole eggs+6 egg whites

    I will be training lower back with deadlifts, shoulders, I will let you know how this goes, along with my diet for the day

    Morning supps:
    Fish oil (3 grams)
    multi V
    joint care
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    Originally posted by PaulB
    no spam here m8, im a uber noob so mebbe ill learn somethign from readin your journal :P

    good luck
    I dont know what the hell that was!!!!
    JEEP is a 4 letter word, therefore it must be dirty.

    This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
    This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion...

    I am addicted to fast food...

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    I'm curious: have you ever tried slightly-less-than-insane volume training? I mean, seriously tried it, with proper diet and rest?
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    What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present."

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    High volume? Nah, I think you need a few more sets in there. You still have a few more exercises that you haven't done.

    LOL, welcome and good luck. How many calories do you take in on a normal day?
    What is elite?
    "Those who work the hardest often complain the least." -anonymous
    Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.

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    Serious volume training is what works, for me. IMO I think it would work for more people, but people don't put in the time. Like I said I have gained 53 lbs in less than 3 years, and in this last year came about 30 of those lbs, and no I'm not just some fatass throwing down any ding dong or twinkie I see to put on weight. I will be posting pics soon, then feel free to say whatever you like. Now for the good stuff:

    Lower back:

    Deadlifts: conventinal style
    Set 1: 315 6 reps
    set 2: 335 5 reps
    set 3: 365 4 reps
    set 4: same
    set 5: 405 1 rep
    set 6: repeat of set 5 because small guy said i used too much leg on set 5, so i did it again nice -and -slow

    Shoulders:
    Clean and press:

    Set 1: 135 for 8
    Set 2: 155 for 3
    Set 3: 155 for 6
    Set 4: 155 for 6

    Seated DB shoulder press

    Set 1: 70's for 12
    Set 2: 75's for 8
    Set 3: 75's for 9
    Set 4: 75's for 7

    Hammer front delt press

    Set 1: 2 45's each side for 4
    Set 2: same for 9
    set 3: same for 7
    Set 4: same for 7

    Lateral raise drop sets:
    For this excercise I burn out from 30lb dumbells down to 15's getting as many as I can for each weight, I perfrom 2 sets of this

    Lateral cable raise:
    3 sets of 10 with cables on 25 (our cable machine is like from WW2, and really sucks with tons of resistance in the ropes that always break, a much more decent weight is used at home on a much more modern set up!)

    Rear delt machine
    Set 1: 120 lbs 12 reps
    Set 2: 135 lbs 10 reps
    Set 3: 135 lbs 8 reps,
    Drop set after set 3 to 105 for 8 more reps

    I went home because there were nopt really any good looking girls, and I had to cook and eat a bunch still


    What I ate:
    Beverly mass maker with desighner whey protein
    50 grams of protein
    49 grams of carbs
    2 beverly anti oxident pills

    1 8 oz turkey burger
    8 oz of fresh salmon
    2 bananas

    going to eat again probably 2 small meals

    BTW my caloric intake for a day is roughly 5000 calories, 330 grams of protein and 200-250 grams of carbs

    Later, and thanks for reading if you have
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    Welcome to journal land!

    Nice weights you're throwing around mang.

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    whats up with the shoulder presses??? you hsould start with 85's next week... no pu$$y footin around here....
    JEEP is a 4 letter word, therefore it must be dirty.

    This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
    This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion...

    I am addicted to fast food...

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    so if your eating 330 g protein and only 250g carbs you must be eating alot of fat to hit 5000 cal??
    -deFenDeRs oF thE unDerRateD

    If it doesnt make dollars, then it doesnt make sense

    I never knew how skinny I was untill I started gaining a little weight

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    he said 200-250 mix of grams and carbs...
    JEEP is a 4 letter word, therefore it must be dirty.

    This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
    This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion...

    I am addicted to fast food...

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    Originally posted by kAiXuan
    so if your eating 330 g protein and only 250g carbs you must be eating alot of fat to hit 5000 cal??
    Mr. Bongrips, Have you ever actualy tried to go through your day, everyday achieving 330 grams of protein, without sitting around and sucking down meal replacement shakes all day. The way I achieve taking in so much protein without an overabundance of carbs is that I eat a lot of meat without bread, and so fourth. Eating around 24 oz of cottage cheese, 24 oz of lean ground turkey, 10 oz of slamon, chicken, peanut butter, and on top of that protein shakes with about 300 calories a pop is an easy way to get in lots of protein W/O going crazy on carbs. I eat ZERO junk, the way people are used to eating with lots of bread, pasta, rice, brekfast cereals, potatoes, etc is why many people injest that many carbs. All you need is the disipline to make eating a job with little to no enjoyment...anyway my meals last night

    12 oz of cottage cheese
    12 oz of lean ground turkey
    2 whole wheat LOW CARB buns
    5 tbls. of natural peanut butter
    1 banana


    midnight wake up meal
    12 oz lean turkey
    1 whole wheat LOW CARB bun
    12 oz of cottage cheese

    lucky i woke up being i took 20 mg of valium, 12 mg of melatononin, and 3200 mg of valerian root....LOST in my techno dream world
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    And yes, you are right SWOLE, I was thinking the same thing, should have gone up on the shoulder presses, and i think i could have but my mood was somewhere in the troff at Wrigley Field...NO B.C. I mean com'mon! deadlifting takes a lot out of me for shoulders, I think it will be getting moved to saturday with triceps.
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    Man, who would want to live with you?? You probably take up all of the refridgerator space!!! I think we should have a fast food vs. clean diet contest... who gets bigger!!!!! the right way.
    JEEP is a 4 letter word, therefore it must be dirty.

    This body. This body holding me. Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
    This body, this body holding me, feeling eternal all this pain is an illusion...

    I am addicted to fast food...

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    I'll take ya both on! I'll do a mix of both.
    What is elite?
    "Those who work the hardest often complain the least." -anonymous
    Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.

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    whats up everyone?
    I wanted to update my journal for the time I have missed on here:

    Thursday: Biceps and forearms

    Standing barbell curl:
    95x12
    115x7
    115x6
    115x6
    115x6
    135x1

    Seated alternating DB curls
    55x6
    55x6 drop:40x8 hammer style
    55x6 drop:40x8 hammer style
    60x4
    I also do 15 BW dips inbetween each set

    standing modified hammer curl with elbows on very top angle of pad for peak contraction and full stretches (much harder than just seated)
    45X8
    55X8
    55X8

    Hammer style DB curl on back of incline bench with a steep angle:
    40x5
    40x5
    40x6
    45x5
    Superset inbetween sets with hercucles 1 arm cable curls from the bottom
    25x10
    30x10
    30x10
    30x8
    you all know the drill with our cable machine, i commonly use 55-75 lbs each arm at home on a newer cable machine. F$ck this cable machine!

    concentratin curls
    45x5
    45x6

    Forearms:
    standing reverse barbell hand curls:
    115x12
    115x10
    135x8
    135x8

    hammer curl: seated regular way
    2 45'sx10
    2 45's +25x6

    superset with reverse bar cable curls
    55x6
    45x6
    on a normal cable use between 110-130 lbs
    Drenches with sweat, and ready to go home like 30 mins ago!

    Friday
    LEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    No ECA's today for sleep reasons, not nearly as good a session as I wanted
    I will post my routine a little later tonight...probably

    IF you have read this tell me what you all think!

    Meals
    AM
    natural PB and sugar free jelly sandwhich
    35 gram protein shake (only because i am low on powder, usually much more fattening shake in the morning)
    1 chicken breast

    pre workout:
    16 oz turkey
    1 avacodo

    post workout
    shake, massmaker + desighner whey
    16 oz tuna
    avacodo

    late meal: 8 oz turkey
    12 oz cottage cheese
    I roll tight wips everyday..Bentleys, Lex, Mercades, and Escalades!

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    Friday
    Legs:
    Squats
    225x12
    275x6
    285x5
    295x5
    315x4
    315x2
    275x5

    hammer leg press (which i am not very fond of):
    feet together and placed at the bottom of the platform for quad isolation, all plates are placed on the bottom hangers for less momentum and more effort:
    270x12
    320x7
    320x7
    340x8

    hack squat, feet all the way apart and at the top of the platform for hamstring emphasis:
    180x10
    230x6
    230x6
    250x5

    stiff leg deads
    225x10
    275x8
    275x8

    lying hamstring extensions:
    135x9
    135x8

    Calves:
    standing calf
    295x15
    315x13
    335x12
    335x14

    seated calf
    150x20
    200x15
    225x13
    225x15
    full extension, no bouncing and a 1 second pause at the top on each rep for maximoum calvage!

    NOTE:
    This was the worst leg workout I think i have possibly ever had, i usually go home to work legs where the equipment is much better, i was also sufferign from a lack of sleep. It will be better next week i promise, sorry for the disapointment.

    Saturday:
    THE ARNOLD!!! Was awesome, went with SWOLE, and another freind. Met Lee preist, got his new video "another blond myth", got it signed. MAny good pics to post soon hopefully with: Dorian, Tom Prince, Lee, Lee's Buff and Hott wife Cathy, Jay Cuttler, etc..
    Awesome time FO SHO!

    I have begun taking desicated liver tablets which increase iron, and stregth. I felt really good lifting triceps today. I am trying to lift heavy and fast(less than 1 min between sets). I got a great pump, and finished in about 30 mins, then did cardio. I will be implementing this strategy this week and will post effectiveness. I had to pump tons of vitamin C, 2 grams B4 bed last night, then another gram every 4 hours, plus extra antioxidents to prevent sickness due to the long 24 hr day at the arnold. I am happy to say I am not sick! I have quit taking any ephedra products since friday for lack of sleep reasons. I have been sleeping better, and am now looking for an energy sorce W/O ephedra pre workout. maybe Beverly's energy reserve? If you decide on desicated liver take 3 pills 45 min prior to lifting for increased strength, it does reduce greatly the absorbtion of vitamin E i am told though, so if you can take vitamin E seperate from those. You an also take the desicated liver with meals to increase the vitamin in your body that way.
    I roll tight wips everyday..Bentleys, Lex, Mercades, and Escalades!

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    Well I'm disappointed to say the least! You call that a leg day!


    Actually nice strength there on both arm and leg day. It sounds like the Arnold was fun. I sure it will energize you for this next week's workouts. BTW, 52lb in 3 years - WOW.

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    Compared to most leg workouts this, to me was a disapointment. I am still having great results with the desicated liver, and my life is better ephedra free (for now at least). Now if i can figure out this MP3 player i will be in business! I am SO motivated after seeing all the pros, i can't wait to watch Lee's video and I will let you all know how it is. It is Lee preist though so it will be great!

    My desire= hard, heavy, and without hesitation ( i had to keep the h theme). I had a great chest workout, i am to tired to type all the details, but by now you all know how armor works. I can report 3 nice sets of 70 lb flys with 8 reps each. Some GREAT pumps tonight FOR SURE! Chest was SWOLE.

    Monday:
    Chest, traps, and abs(quick, simple, and ripped sort of)
    I ate a ton of fish today also for those who care. I am OUT of protein, beverly better get thier Sh$t strait and get my stuff here before I shrivle. I SWEAR i will be posting pics on here ASAP, of my body, and my freinds and I with the massive pros.

    Todays weight, 234 lbs. freakville here i come

    reply to this or i will kill myself
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    Re: Dr. Feelgood

    Originally posted by Justin Armor
    Age: 21
    Weight: 230 lbs
    BF: 9%
    Heigth: 6'1''
    Nice stats, man. Got any pics?

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    pics are on the way, so is more mass
    I roll tight wips everyday..Bentleys, Lex, Mercades, and Escalades!

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