The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
    Banned Berserker's Avatar
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    Eating more pork.

    starting deadlift

    My sticking point on deadlifts is getting it moving, if I get it off the ground I am ok. Is there anything to do to work on this? Form?
    I changed my form a little bit. Starting with my butt lower, below parallel so my legs are driving up when I start to pull the weight. I used to start with my butt kind of high, not quite a stiff leg but around parallel. Just wondering what everything thought.
    Last edited by Berserker; 02-24-2003 at 04:18 PM.

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  3. #2
    Magically delicious Shane's Avatar
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    Try doing them from a podium or using smaller plates. Snatch deads from a podium are supposed to be good for that too.
    Last edited by Shane; 02-24-2003 at 06:27 PM.
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  4. #3
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    Maybe you need more back work. Dimel Deads for high reps, Glute ham raises, reverse hypers, romanian deadlifts, and sldl's are all good lifts. I usually have my butt low and drive up with my hams and lower back.
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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Getting a deadlift off the floor is mostly lower back. If you are trying to squat up your deadlift you aren't pulling to your best ability. Sounds like your form needs work. Also, you need to rip the bar off the floor. Many people waste too much time at the bottom. I get down there and grab it and get moving. Very fast.
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    Senior Member noahfor123's Avatar
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    How do you not squat a deadlift. It seems like unless my back is bent I have to use my legs.
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  7. #6
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    Eating more pork.
    Latman-you may be right I spend to much time at the bottom. I think I pyche myself out. Last couple times I started with my butt lower, I don't think I was squatting it up, I think it was more getting moving and momentum. I am sure my form could use work, I am pretty much self taught.
    I guess what I am curious is how far down you crotch? Also I've heard conflicting things about how close to the body. I read your shoulders should be behind the bar. Mine are maybe above or a little in front.
    Thanks for the replies guys.

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    It depends on the person, how flexible they are, and how they're comfortable. I start very low, some people start very high. The important part is to can watch a good dead on slo mo and it still looks fast....

    Latman is right about wasting time at the bottom, your stretch reflex only lasts so long...if you were allowed to bounce the bar off your chest in a meet you'd do it....gripping and ripping is the same thing, there's no rule in the dead saying you have to pause at the bottom.

    Everyone's shoulders should be behind the bar, and everyone should be pulling back. The bar in relation to the shins doesn't really matter as long as you pull back.
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