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    The US government just made it illegal to sell pipes!!!!

    I know this may not be of interest to anyone but fellow smokers, but this **** is ****ing pissing me off http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030224_588.html

    They are ****ing cracking down on headshops across America and YES they are targeting pipes that are even labelled for tobacco use. Now many of you may not give two ****s, but think of it this way:

    1) If you can't buy a pipe, even if it's labelled for tobacco use, what the **** freedoms are they going to take in the future.

    2) Why don't they spend the time and money to get ****ing crack, meth, and heroin dealers off the ****ing streets instead of a harmless pipe salesman who makes probably less than $20,000 USD per year. BTW not one drug DEALER was arrested in all of this.

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    But you can bet as soon as I can leave I'm ****in' out of here.
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    Wow calm down... You want to leave your country because they banned some pipes? Is it an absolute necessity to smoke that crap?
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    It's the fact of the matter my friend, why now? Everyone knows that nobody smokes tobacco out of those pipes. Why aren't they going after the big guys, instead of a ****ing lowly pipe shop??? Is the ridiculousness of it all that pisses me off. Like legalizing marijuana for medical use, then the ****in' feds arresting the med users for having marijuana. It's ****in' absurd.
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    They're banning pipes??????



























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    I can make a bong out of a tennis ball or a soda can. Are they gonna ban those too? Where do you draw the line?
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    same thing over here (except in one state) its just considered drug paraphanalia (sp?)

    i still think you can buy the old school tobacco pipes though.
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    Originally posted by Saint Patrick
    I can make a bong out of a tennis ball or a soda can. Are they gonna ban those too? Where do you draw the line?

    I see a bit of a difference. A pipe, at least the pipes I'm picturing by the thread starters description, are designed for only one purpose.....to smoke dope....nothing else. Dope is illegal, therefore, I think it's perfectly acceptable for the pipe to be as well. It IS paraphernalia. Their previously legal sale existed only because merchants skirted the law by selling them under the false pretense that they are tobacco pipes. You, me and Jerry Garcia all know that they are simply not used for that purpose, by anyone. That's like describing a bong as a paperweight so it can be legally sold.


    If meth precursors like Sudafed and lithium batteries haven't been banned yet, I think your tennis balls are safe. But if you see Anhydrous Ammonia filled snow globes on a store shelf someday, I'd expect them to be banned along with these pipes shortly thereafter.

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    That's like describing a bong as a paperweight so it can be legally sold.
    lol, true

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    well if weed is still illegal, so should the pipes you smoke it out of. youre right everybody knows theyre not for tobacco use, so get rid of em. besides if yer such an avid smoker, shouldnt you have plenty of **** to smoke it out of anyways? you dont see these shops selling needles labeled for insulin shots do you? i say quit yer bitching and wake up. if you wanna be a super cool drug user then move to the super cool trendy place like amsterdam. that way you can really live up to the image and look cool to other people.

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    I'm not an avid smoker or anything, but I agree with pastdoubt. It's just another example of the U.S. Government slowly denying you of some of your basic freedoms, and most of you don't even notice. Next thing you know, they're gonna ban freeweights, because we all know that steroid users are the only people these days who even touch a barbell. Circuit training for everyone!
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    What a shame Becuase we all know how hard it is to make your own, or order then through the mail.

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    they need to concentrate on finding terrorists...
    ... you want to stop this? VOte for whomever runs against bush next election since ashcroft has become the head of our new police state... Amerika

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    lets keep this debate friendly, people

    respect the opinions of others and try to be somewhat constructive, regardless of your stance on the topic at hand

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    I don't smoke, tried it. I think there is more consctructive things to do then ban pipes. I didn't read article either. I can see both sides though. Sure you can make one, but I have seen some cool ones that would be hard. Your better off without parphellina(sp) it can get you busted with residue. So roll your dollars and poke holes in your pop cans.
    If you do want to leave the US over it I am all for that, if your not happy leave.
    For the record I think its a waste of time and shouldn't be illegal.

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    i try to be mindful of others, but there is no way i can feel sorry for someone who wants to cry about a "freedom" that they are being stripped of. what, the freedom to participate in an illegal act? hypocrits

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    OH MY GOD!!! NO!!!
    They cant do that can they.
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    Doc , that is the funniest thing I have read in a while, like a democrat would really try to find terrorist......that is were part of their biggest campaign contributions come from, just ask Clinton

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    Originally posted by JD77


    Good.
    I agree.

    Originally posted by Saint Patrick


    I can make a bong out of a tennis ball or a soda can.

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    I'm sorry, but IMO I find it quite sad that anyone would have that much time on their hands.

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    Have you read the original article? They aren't cracking down on headshops, they cracked down on some dot com shops that were selling
    "miniature scales, substances for diluting raw narcotics, bongs, marijuana pipes, roach clips and cocaine freebase kits."

    Thats a bit different from your local headshop with pipes and blacklight posters.

    This looks like it has been blown out of proportion a bit.

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    Ok I read the article. Not such a big deal. Most of that stuff you will able to get just using differarnt type of stores. Like scales go to a sporting good store that dealsin reloading. Though maybe not mintature like the article said. I saw a keychain type scale once don't know if it really worked. Was only for dope so accuracy not a big deal.
    Also said items that are disguised as lipstick holders and highliters. Not sure exactly what probably for caring. I can see why there illegal.
    Kind of curious what used to dillute narcotics. Probably just a mixer.
    Probably blown out of proportion. Most if those items are used by dealers not users.

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    Right. And it sounds like it was items more suited for hardcore users, rather then your average pothead.

    Granted, I think the US should legalize it...but thats a whole 'nother thread...

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    Whats wrong with bongs and pipes the average potheads use them to. My freind had a nice color changing glass bong with marble work and a frog climbning up the side. Nice art work was like almost 150.00 and thats from the shop in my area that has been around for like 20 years they have every thing for smoking tobacco I hope they dont get shut down.
    Last edited by bigkevin20; 02-25-2003 at 11:00 AM.
    Age 23 Height 5'10 weight 210 2 years complete of serious lifting.
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    Now as of Dec/02 I am 210 with a 34-36 waist. A year complete 70 pounds lost now lets get big .
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    03/17/03 405X6, "Rack Pulls 505X3, 525X1.... 555X1 Miss"
    04/14/03 465X1 verry difficult
    05/12/03 475X1 Easy!!! 500X1 Miss"real close"
    05/19/03 435X5
    06/16/03 Rack pulls 555X2, 600Xmiss
    07/14/03 500X1 GOAL ACHIEVED!!!!
    10/06/03 500X4 555X1 Miss
    10/13/03 535X1
    11/10/03 Rack pull 500X7
    GOAL for 2004 get back to a low fat% and keep it 8 -10% would be great.
    06/29 rack pull 700X3
    07/6/04 600x1 at 216
    09/6/04 600X1 at 208 Rack pull 720X3
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    Originally posted by the doc
    they need to concentrate on finding terrorists...
    ... you want to stop this? VOte for whomever runs against bush next election since ashcroft has become the head of our new police state... Amerika

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    The things forbidden that while the Customs slept
    I have crossed to Safety with? For I am There,
    And what I would not part with I have kept.

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    Doc hit it right on the head. It's just a prime example of misusing valuable resources and abuse of power. What they're basically doing is creating a crime out of something that is basically harmless. The government should be focusing more on education, a war on possibly 2 fronts (3 if we grow some balls and decide to stomp those damn frenchies), and unemployment. Why waste valuable tax dollars fighting something that is so petty?

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