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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Originally posted by GonePostal

    This explaination makes not sense.... So hockey is a sport that requires no air???
    No, it is a sport that requires the body to use it's anaerobic energy system as it's primary source of energy and not the aerobic system. Read a basic physiology book or take basic biology if this doesn't make sense.

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    Originally posted by Majestic


    Erm.....ESPN is the only channel that shows hockey....you realize that, right?
    I haven't read the whole thread is see if anybody corrected you. ESPN is not the only channel to show hockey. ABC, I think Fox and I am pretty some of the other stations.
    I like hockey but basketball doesn't interest me.
    I like football the best. Every game means something. The problem with hockey, baseball and basketball is the games have no significance. You lose so what there is 80 more games. Football 16, you have to win. When you get to the play if you lose you go home, no second chance. I like that.
    I like hockey for the action but I like football for the stradegy.
    As far as baseball there like hamsters run a course. A maze would be more interesting.

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    Originally posted by IceRgrrl


    No, it is a sport that requires the body to use it's anaerobic energy system as it's primary source of energy and not the aerobic system. Read a basic physiology book or take basic biology if this doesn't make sense.
    I have, and that is why it does not make sense. You can't have anaerobic exercise... By definition anaerobic means lack of oxygen. You can dip into your anaerobic energy cycle but that is after you out strip your aerobic energy cycle. Due to hockey's very short shifts wouldn't more of the energy be coming from aerobic sources? Because you can recover and get rid of the latic acid before you go too much into the anearobic cycle? While on the other hand in the NBA it is more of a constant energy drain over a longer period of time so your body never gets a chance to clear all the latic acid out and aerobic cycle never gets a chance to catch up.
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    I've never played basketball or hockey to any great extent, but to me they seem similar on the activity level. Your always on the move. but that is just my ignorant observation.

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    Originally posted by GonePostal

    I have, and that is why it does not make sense. You can't have anaerobic exercise... By definition anaerobic means lack of oxygen. You can dip into your anaerobic energy cycle but that is after you out strip your aerobic energy cycle. Due to hockey's very short shifts wouldn't more of the energy be coming from aerobic sources? Because you can recover and get rid of the latic acid before you go too much into the anearobic cycle? While on the other hand in the NBA it is more of a constant energy drain over a longer period of time so your body never gets a chance to clear all the latic acid out and aerobic cycle never gets a chance to catch up.
    Can't have anaerobic exercise?

    Just because aerobic metabolism is active in the recovery phase most certainly does not mean it's fueling the activity itself. Glycolysis is going to fuel any short-lived activity that's not of the absolute highest intensity.

    And just why would a basketball game be different from a metabolic standpoint than hockey? If anything, hockey is *more* anaerobic.
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    hockey definately has the toughest SOB's ive ever seen, last year when i watched most of the playoffs, this dude got his shoulder dislocated and they popped it back in, and he returned to the game in the next period.

    as much as i love baseball, there are 2 premier players out for 6 weeks right now with dislocated shoulders....sissy's
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    Originally posted by GonePostal

    I have, and that is why it does not make sense. You can't have anaerobic exercise...

    Then you don't fully understand anaerobic exercise/energy system. I think you are operating under the misconception that the anaerobic system kicks in only after the aerobic system is tapped and that is not true. Both energy systems are options for the body at any time, depending on conditions/intensity of exertion. Also, the terms aerobic/anaerobic are commonly used to describe types of cardiovascular exercise, but more specifically, they refer to two separate energy generating processes that take place at the cellular level...whether those cells are muscle cells or bone cells or blood cells or lung cells may mean that different cells are using different energy systems at different times.

    By definition anaerobic means lack of oxygen. You can dip into your anaerobic energy cycle but that is after you out strip your aerobic energy cycle.
    You can go straight to your anaerobic system and not use the aerobic system at all. If you take off at a dead sprint, you are not taking in enough oxygen to supply the aerobic system...you're using energy way too fast, so your body goes right to the anaerobic system which produces ATP without oxygen BUT produces lactic acid as a by-product. This is what the term anaerobic/"without oxygen" strictly refers to...yes, you are still breathing at the organismal level but your cells are resorting to the option that does not require oxygen because all available oxygen is being used up too quickly. You can't sustain that high an intensity level of exertion for very long and therefore must stop and recover OR slow down to the point where the aerobic system can begin to take over, which uses oxygen to produce ATP more efficiently than the anaerobic system does and without producing lactic acid.

    Due to hockey's very short shifts wouldn't more of the energy be coming from aerobic sources? Because you can recover and get rid of the latic acid before you go too much into the anearobic cycle?
    No, because of what I explained in the previous paragraph. Each shift is short but very high intensity...it taps the anaerobic system. The aerobic energy cycle does not produce lactic acid. However, specific muscles MAY produce lactic acid if they are being especially targeted/worked and resorting to ATP production via the anaerobic process.

    While on the other hand in the NBA it is more of a constant energy drain over a longer period of time so your body never gets a chance to clear all the latic acid out and aerobic cycle never gets a chance to catch up.
    The fact that one guy can play most of the game with little to no breaks means that he is mainly using aerobic energy sources. It's like the difference between running the 100m dash and the 1600m run. To run so fast in the 100m, the person must go all out for a very short period of time, using so much energy in a short period of time that the primary energy source is anaerobic. A person cannot run with that same intensity/speed in the 1600m...he must pace himself to the point where he is using the aerobic system to keep up a continuous supply of energy to allow him to finish the race. If he is a good athlete, he's figured out exactly how much/how far he can push the limits of his aerobic system and can then time a last final anaerobic kick to the finish line.

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    I think he got the two mixed up.
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