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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    It's April 24th...what'd you do today?

    I marched for about 5-6 hours in the sun but it was well worth it. I actually saw a black lady at the protest at the Turkish Consulate which was very encouraging. I'd wish more people from different demographic groups (not according to sex or age) would come to these things on April 24th so that I/we (Armenians) would have a better sense that the word is getting through to some people other than Armenians.

    If anyone doesn't know, April 24, 1915 is the day the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire decided to commence their huge genocide campaign agains the Armenians who lived in Turkey. Even though the Armenians were the ones who were mostly massacred, Greeks, Assyrians, and Syrians were all victims of the brutalities. Approximately 1.5 million Armenians were murdered and about 4-4.4 million people total were massacred. To this day, Turkey denies it and the U.S. refuses to recognize it.

    If you're curious about anything else, feel free to IM me or check out these websites:

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    i learned some about this in my sociology class
    it was really disturbing..
    but i didnt know yesterday was special or anything
    sorry

    that is really positive that you marched yesterday
    do you know how many people were there? and where were you guys at?
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    nothing quite like the occasional US bashing is there?

    it was almost 90 years ago, why live in the past? im not going to recognize it either.
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    Wow, that Turkish genocide thing is very interesting.
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    Yesterday I sat around, went to the gym, and got drunk. It was a good day.
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    did you get drunk and then go to the gym?

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    Originally posted by MrWebb78
    nothing quite like the occasional US bashing is there?

    it was almost 90 years ago, why live in the past? im not going to recognize it either.
    oh shush
    it doesnt matter who did it or when
    its still horrible
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    I think this thread was started more to stir up anti war ****, talking about protests.
    I guess I really don't care what happened in turkey in 1915, its sad that it did. But there has been many more atrocitys since then. Though its probably something worth knowing about. What were Americans doing in turkey? Smuggling opium?

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    it depends which conspiracy theorist ou talk to, maybe we were too busy covering up alien footprints so that nobody could know the truth
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    Originally posted by kimpy225
    i learned some about this in my sociology class
    it was really disturbing..
    but i didnt know yesterday was special or anything
    sorry

    that is really positive that you marched yesterday
    do you know how many people were there? and where were you guys at?
    I'm glad they're having some things about it in the curriculum.

    There were no exact quotes on how many people were there but I'd estimate it at around 5,000 at the march in Hollywood and about 1,000 at the Turkish Consulate.

    The march was in Little Armenia in Hollywood on Sunset. The Consulate is at Highland and Wilshire.

    MrWebb, you're obviously the one who's looking into this blindly. I didn't not say ONE derogatory thing about the U.S. All I said was that the U.S. does not recognize it.

    Why live in the past? haha...ey man, you're SO funny. I wonder why the U.S. celebrates July 4th or why we have Christmas...hey, you know? Maybe we should get rid of those and while we're at it, throw Thanksgiving out the window too.

    It still lives on because 1.5 million of my people were MASSACRED (maybe you don't understand the weight of this word) and the fact that the Turkish government nor the most powerful government in this world don't recognize it is a very big deal. Of course, you don't realize that because you're an American who has never had to worry about being systematically terminated before and having to live with the denial of those who perpetrated it.

    Berserker....I have NO idea where you're coming from. Anti-war protests? Please, if you've got nothing intelligent to say then don't insult me or the integrity of the genocide.

    How would you like it if the Jews we great Americans liberated did not get recognition from the German government that their genocide ever happened? I'm sure you'd be fighting for that.

    Thanks for showing me how much you care about humanity though.

    kimpy and Ironman, thank you, sincerely.
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    we had a lil thing about that here in holland too. holland doesn`t recognise it either

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    heh guess who's half turkish...

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    Originally posted by kimpy225
    that is really positive that you marched yesterday
    I concur! I don't think we should ever forget our ancestors or their trials and tribulations. Its a part of who we are. Take it easy PeaceBeWithYou.
    "The only sin which we never forgive in each other is difference of opinion."
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    Did a search on it.
    Your right I have nothing intelligent to add. Even worse I read it wrong. I thought it was americans, not armenians. Why we would regonize this in the US? I am not saying its not a tragedy though.
    Actually the armenians need a better press agent. The searchs I did came up saying that it has been exagerated and better of on going conflict.
    I really couldn't find a good link. Most be a movie coming out, thats what came up first.

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    Originally posted by Rastaman


    Take it easy PeaceBeWithYou.
    I'm trying dude.

    Berserker, thanks. There IS a movie coming out but I don't know how it's going to be released....it's called The Secret German Genocide, I believe. There was a movie months ago called "Ararat" which was the first full-length feature film about the Genocide released in the U.S. If you'd like more links about it, check out the ones I posted in this thread...there is lots of information and picture documentation if you find the writing hard to believe for any reason.

    Centaurion, what's your stance on it?
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    heh, my grandfather is an ultra nationalist turk, but im glad to say that im not. To be honest, i dont really have any opinions of that since i havnt read anything about it. But usually im against genocide.

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    Originally posted by Centaurion
    But usually im against genocide.
    Usually, eh? Comforting.

    And I agree with Webb, it was 90 years ago and not even in the U.S. So I don't know why "to this day" the U.S. should acknowledge it?

    In any case, it's horrible that this happened. No race/nationality deserves genocide. I can't look down on someone for remembering their roots, so you're not going to catch me bashing you on it. Just confused as to why the United States as a government should acknowledge it, rather than just the people of these countries involved who live in the U.S.? (Which of course took place).
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    Originally posted by Centaurion
    usually im against genocide.
    "The only sin which we never forgive in each other is difference of opinion."
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    Originally posted by PeaceBeWithYou
    ...because 1.5 million of my people were MASSACRED...
    well MY people MASSACRED millions of je...

    oh wait, nevermind.
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    Why we would regonize this in the US?
    Berserker, recognization of the past attempted genocide of the turks is important because we are one of Turkey's allies and America isnt recognizing that one of its allies committed such acts. I guess all of a sudden we trust foreigners or something. Which, of course, is crap, because its fairly hard to deny that it happened; I mean (excuse the HORRIBLE joke) 1.5 million dead Armenians cant be wrong. I think our relations with Turkey were somewhat damaged recently, so perhaps something might happen.
    Perhaps. I'd like to see it happen but I dont run things and honestly I'm just going on information from those websites right now because other than a post about that Arafat movie about 5 months ago I knew nothing about this. I'm surprised Kimpy learned about it in sociology class because I've never heard word one about it. Maybe if that Arafat movie comes to the indie theatre I'll check it out.
    Its in English right? Reading subtitles puts me to sleep. Take it from a guy who slept through 2 semesters of film history classes and somehow managed to ace them all and learn a whole bunch of **** about classic film. Who knew??


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    what!?

    im usually against genocide, yes. but sometimes i kinda agree with the purpose. im a man enough to admit it.

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    Originally posted by Centaurion
    what!?

    im usually against genocide, yes. but sometimes i kinda agree with the purpose. im a man enough to admit it.
    If you are serious here, let me be the first...get some mental help.
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    im serious as i can be.

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    Originally posted by Centaurion
    im serious as i can be.
    Killing off groups of people is not a good thing. Seek some mental help.
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