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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    North Korea

    Just curious, what do you all think about the situation with North Korea? On one hand, it seems like everything would be good'n dandy if Bush just told the Jong-il we weren't going to attack his territory. On the other hand, not sure if the guy can be trusted...

    Just was reading an article, and wondered if anyone else had been paying attention to it and had any thoughts...
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    They're on Bush's "todo list".

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    Originally posted by Saturday Fever
    They're on Bush's "todo list".
    thats funny but unfortionaly its true.....seems like bush just likes to start s***
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    Could be seen that way or he is one of the few in this world that has enough balls to do what he thinks is right.
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    great, another one of these threads
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    Originally posted by MrWebb78
    great, another one of these threads
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    even though i kindda started it.......damn me!!!
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    nothing wrong with these threads, if you guys dont wanna talk about it, dont read it. its an issue thats affects all of us, might as well discuss it.
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    but nobody discusses anything, it just leads to cheap shots and insults whenever anybody sees something differantly
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    Nothing's gonna happen. N.korea is not Iraq.

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    We'll have to see what happens...
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    I'd like the U.S. to work with N.Korea and help them out, but I think they should disarm first. Right now they're using nukes as leverage in negotiating, which is awful. Using the threat of nuclear catastrophe should never be a factor in negotiating. If the U.S. gives N.Korea what they want before disarmament, what does that tell everyone else with nuclear aspirations - develop them, bargain with them, and benefit? I think that the U.S. government would like nothing better than to help N.Korea out and improve relations/stability on the korean penninsula, but the nuclear weapons are slowing the process down and may continue to prevent that aid from getting to those poor N.Korean citizens. Once again the U.S. is stuck between a rock and a hard place - hold out for disarmament and further stress the situation, or provide aid while nukes remain a negotiating stick and possibly encourage more of the same.
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    I think we need to test our newest weaponry and our ICBM. N. Korea looks like it'd be easy to hit.


    But in all seriousness, this needs to be resolved peacefully. War with N. Korea would NOT be like it was with Iraq.
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    Originally posted by gino
    I'd like the U.S. to work with N.Korea and help them out, but I think they should disarm first. Right now they're using nukes as leverage in negotiating, which is awful. Using the threat of nuclear catastrophe should never be a factor in negotiating. If the U.S. gives N.Korea what they want before disarmament, what does that tell everyone else with nuclear aspirations - develop them, bargain with them, and benefit? I think that the U.S. government would like nothing better than to help N.Korea out and improve relations/stability on the korean penninsula, but the nuclear weapons are slowing the process down and may continue to prevent that aid from getting to those poor N.Korean citizens. Once again the U.S. is stuck between a rock and a hard place - hold out for disarmament and further stress the situation, or provide aid while nukes remain a negotiating stick and possibly encourage more of the same.
    well stated!

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    Its on the Bush World tour.
    I really haven't been following it. I agree I don't think it would be like Iraq. I also think he woud have trouble rallying the US people. The middle east is differant cause of 9/11 and other terrorist, even with that there was not 100% backing. I hate to say but right now there is alot of dislike for the muslim world and the middle east right now. People are not as emotional about Korea, but its something that needs to be dealt with in some fashion.

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    I think in general, the people in the middle east hate me a lot more than I dislike them.
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    Originally posted by gino
    I'd like the U.S. to work with N.Korea and help them out, but I think they should disarm first. Right now they're using nukes as leverage in negotiating, which is awful. Using the threat of nuclear catastrophe should never be a factor in negotiating. If the U.S. gives N.Korea what they want before disarmament, what does that tell everyone else with nuclear aspirations - develop them, bargain with them, and benefit? I think that the U.S. government would like nothing better than to help N.Korea out and improve relations/stability on the korean penninsula, but the nuclear weapons are slowing the process down and may continue to prevent that aid from getting to those poor N.Korean citizens. Once again the U.S. is stuck between a rock and a hard place - hold out for disarmament and further stress the situation, or provide aid while nukes remain a negotiating stick and possibly encourage more of the same.
    I agree with you. I don't think bargaining with nukes is the way to go. The North Koreans have a huge army, but considering that number it is pretty dismal. I don't think Jong-il expects to win with a true military effort. Which is why I think the North Koreans using nuclear weapons is much more likely than Iraq doing so ever was. At least Saddam was delusional enough to think he COULD win.

    It seems like China is firmly set against these types of threats as well. Despite the differences between the two countries, if it does come down to it, I think China will back the United States. Not to mention N. Korea's other neighbors who are concerned for the safety of their borders. Jong-il seems like a reckless leader with little to lose. Scarily like Saddam... but more openly "trigger happy", unless of course it's a bluff.

    Hopefully it does not come down to a combined military effort, but by the way things appear right now it seems almost inevitable.
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    Kim Jong-il is cuckoo, the North Korean citizens are starving and homeless, if the U.S. grants them financial backing, it would most likely go to North Korean military
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