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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    skullcrushers to head or behind head?

    wut is the difference in bringing the bar down close to your face, as opposed to bringing it down behind your head?

    1. is there a difference in stress placed on any of the 3 heads of the tri's in doing one over the other?

    2. also... is there a difference in stress placed on any of the 3 heads of the tri's when doing skullcrushers with the arms slightly bent and elbows flared, as compared to doing them with elbows tucked close to body?

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    I do them behind the head ,and really feel them this way.If I bring them to my face or forehead I feel a lot of pressure in my elbows.Besides you could whack your self in the face .Let you elbows go where they want to naturally go.Peace!

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    Yup, I do it behind the head also.
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    1 more for behind, it's the full range of motion, just do it slowly and don't build off of momentum <~~rapes your triceps
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    I go for my face. Gives me some extra drive if I'm getting too close for comfort.

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    I do them behind the head ,and really feel them this way.If I bring them to my face or forehead I feel a lot of pressure in my elbows.Besides you could whack your self in the face .Let you elbows go where they want to naturally go.Peace!
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    i do them behind; i've tried them to the face or forehead, it hurts my elbows. plus, going behind the head opposes gravity more than going to the forehead i believe, so ur tris get more work
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    do you guys keep your arms straight or slightly bent? I think bent would slightly stress the medial head of the tri's a bit more than if they were straight. Wut do u think?

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    you guys are entertaining. The reason all your elbows hurt is because the muscle tissue around it is weak. Hence this also shows you that it is giving you a larger ROM for your triceps with stronger isolation and the ablility to do heavier weight. Oh and keep your elbows tucked in to isolate your tris
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    Hahaha, your wrong.

    Unfortunately you are wrong. Putting your elbow in an unnatural position can cause your elbow to sit in a bad position, causeing pain, as it is an out of the ordinary position. Or the elbow is simply not in the socket correctly. Ever noticed how when you kick the front of your knee with 177N of force it hurts, but when you do the same from the side, it breaks? Same concept with the elbow, it can only rotate a certain amount, and in certain planes of existence.

    I do it behind the head, when I do it to the head I sweat more, and thus have a greater chance of killing myself.
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    what do you mean you sweat more?
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    it means he has to drink more water to compensate
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    Do it behind the head... the Arnold way.

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    Alls I know is if I flare out my elbows I could add 20 more pounds to my skulls but I'd feel like it was cheating. Keeping my elbows stationary and in isolates my tri's a lot more; It feels much harder to lift, but it doesn't hurt my elbows. The only time my elbows hurt a little is my first set, but after that they just get "warmed up." I see guys with their elbows all the way out, and it looks like they are using their lats.

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    To my head. I try to keep my elbows tucked in as much as possible, but they flare out a bit as I get tired.
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    Mine flare out when I get tired as well. I do em behind the head.
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