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    gain in strength = gain in mass?

    my strength has dramatically improved since i started working out in june but i really dont think i've gained all that much mass..

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    Mass comes much slower than does strength for some people. (Most people? I don't know.. I can't speak for the rest.)

    I'm now pushing 230 up on the bench, and I am still small. Strength is relative to size, however it is not the primary cause for muscle growth.

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    If you are eating enough, yes.

    Another thing to consider is the time it takes for the nervous system to "optimize" to a given lift, do you change your routine often?

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    when i first got the bench i benched like every single day.. then slowed down to like 3x a week. wHen i sprained my wrist and for 2 weeks i couldnt lift my bench suffered a little. Then i found this site and got the routine and been doing it for like 3 weeks. Also i've been benching for a total of 2 months almost... (2 weeks no benching at all)
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    Give it a little time, you haven't even begun to stimulate muscle for growth.

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    Sort of a related question -- I have lifted for almost 4 years, and I started the WWB routine back in May. I gained about 6 or 7 pounds after the first month and a half, but slowly my weight has gone back down so that I am only now about 3 pounds up. BUT, I took measurements the other day and I was up in everything -- almost 1" in calves, almost 1" in legs, .5" in arms. Does this make sense?? If my measurements are up, doesn't my weight have to be up as well?? And I did take these the same day of the week I took them before I started the routine, so it wasn't like I took them right after I got back from the gym or anything.

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    You could've gained fat and muscle. Either you maintained your fat and that would make the your arms, legs, etc. bigger, or you kept the muscle and lost the fat, making for the weight loss and you were still bigger then what you used to be.

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    Originally posted by Brian
    Sort of a related question -- I have lifted for almost 4 years, and I started the WWB routine back in May. I gained about 6 or 7 pounds after the first month and a half, but slowly my weight has gone back down so that I am only now about 3 pounds up. BUT, I took measurements the other day and I was up in everything -- almost 1" in calves, almost 1" in legs, .5" in arms. Does this make sense?? If my measurements are up, doesn't my weight have to be up as well?? And I did take these the same day of the week I took them before I started the routine, so it wasn't like I took them right after I got back from the gym or anything.

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    yes it sounds like you lost some body fat and gained some muscle.
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    Isn't this where we insert the ol' genetics speech again?


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    hmm if anything my genetics are probably really bad

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    Me too.

    But I'm an enhanced individual. Muhahaha... Ok.

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    then again im still very much growing.. i may be 17 but im probably closer to what a lot of kids were like at 14 or 15.. my dad didnt have to shave till 19 or 20.

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    YAZ : was that 230lbs or kg?

    "just wondering"

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    i know a kid thats about 5'8 150 pounds who can bench 225 10 times.. and he's 17.

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    matx wtf??? kg or lbs??

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    pounds, i never think in terms of the dirty metric system.

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    Don't worry-- all bench press lifts by 17 year olds are "superball" lifts, and are usually complemented by their spotter's bent over row.
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    That is sometimes true, that being said, a long ago training partner of mine, John Dukes, benched 311 lbs (44 lb plates) in high school at around 5'9-10" and 165 lbs. Strict, slow movement.

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    Originally posted by PowerManDL
    Don't worry-- all bench press lifts by 17 year olds are "superball" lifts, and are usually complemented by their spotter's bent over row.
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    sorry..my crappy arithmetic..i thought 225lbs was about 50kg!

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