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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Can you do this????

    A guy told me that you have to be really really really built to stand up stiff as board and curl 100 lbs and not lean at all. Well I can do it 3x6. And not only that but my 43 yr old father can do it too. And he just started liftin pretty regular with me 2 and a half months ago and hadn't lifted before that since he was in high school.

    Is that pretty good or is this just some bull**** this guy was talkin??
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    Well if you're not really really really built, and you're doing it, then doesn't that answer you question?

    Strength and size are two entirely different things.
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    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.

    This is just what I've heard though, I am not positive if it is dangerous or not. Try it at your own risk.

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    I think I would have to pass on that one.

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    I think 100lbs is an old school mark of heaviness or something. My dad always used to talk about the one time he worked out in the olden days that him and his friends got 100lbs above their head.

    I curled 110 today for 2 reps if that helps your question. My stats are below.

    I would try that 500lbs thing with the right spotters. Emphasis on the "s" in spotters.

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    Originally posted by silles
    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.

    This is just what I've heard though, I am not positive if it is dangerous or not. Try it at your own risk.
    1000lbs? You wouldn't even be able to hold it for one second.
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    <<<< is not that built and can curl 100 lbs.
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    I'm not built, I can curl that poundage as well.

    The notion of keeping 500-1000lbs "locked out" is probably not the best idea. I guess you can consider it as a type of isometric contraction? But I would imagine in the "locked out" position it would put undue stress on the joints.
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    Originally posted by silles
    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.

    This is just what I've heard though, I am not positive if it is dangerous or not. Try it at your own risk.
    this just seems REALLY ill-advised to me

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    i weigh 203 and i can curl 70 lb dbs for reps with good form and a spotter
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    Originally posted by silles
    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.

    This is just what I've heard though, I am not positive if it is dangerous or not. Try it at your own risk.

    ROFL! Are you trying to cause some WBB fatalities?! This is the stupidest idea I've heard in awhile.

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    I've seen contests were the person curling has to stand against a wall. They curl as much as they can without their back or head moving from the wall. That takes all the body english out of the lift. That's probably what he is talking about. You normally can't curl as much this way. Try it sometime.
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    Originally posted by silles
    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.

    This is just what I've heard though, I am not positive if it is dangerous or not. Try it at your own risk.
    I hate to jump on the band wagon but any one who even considers this kind of test may want to have their IQ tested as well........you can find it down the hall from the XRAY room in your local emergency room....look for the door marked "WHAT the HELL Was I THINKING?

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    500 lbs is a bit much for most people, but I don't think it's uncommon for a powerlifter to do "walk-outs" with like 5% more than his max...Walk-outs would be where he basically lifts the weight just off the rack and holds it there for a couple seconds, and then puts it back. I guess it makes the weight not seem quite as heavy when in a competition and doing more than he has maxed before.
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    Originally posted by silles
    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.

    This is just what I've heard though, I am not positive if it is dangerous or not. Try it at your own risk.
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    Originally posted by silles
    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.

    This is just what I've heard though, I am not positive if it is dangerous or not. Try it at your own risk.
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    I hear the best upper-body strength test is to take a loaded bar with 500-1000 pounds (depending on your strength) on it, get under the bench, have a bunch of friends (it might require quite a few) lift it into lock out position for you. Once in that lockout position, try to hold it there as long as possible. Don't be a pussy though, try to hold it up there as long as you can.
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    I didn't know on curlin 100 pounds. He told me the only rule to it is you can't bend your back at all. Like you have to stand up completely straight the entire time.
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    Originally posted by Backdraft
    I've seen contests were the person curling has to stand against a wall. They curl as much as they can without their back or head moving from the wall. That takes all the body english out of the lift. That's probably what he is talking about. You normally can't curl as much this way. Try it sometime.
    this is how we had to max in weight training in high school PE. im quite fond of it since i absolutely hate body english. there is no space to do this at my gym though unless i wanted to carry the bar into the aerobics room...which i wont do.

    as far as the original question goes...i dont think 100 lbs represents a truly strong curl. alot of people can curl 100 lbs, but once you get into the triple digits you wont find many who can do much more than that with perfect form. i hope i dont need to define perfect form again.
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    Re: Can you do this????

    Originally posted by klbkricp
    A guy told me that you have to be really really really built to stand up stiff as board and curl 100 lbs and not lean at all.
    The only way I can think of that you can stand up and not sway at all (or have your elbows move backwards to keep the center of gravity closer to your body) is to lean against a wall. Try it next time you work out. I've never tried it, but I'm sure it's incredibly hard.

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    Edit: Didn't read the whole thread. MrWebb and Backdraft already said what I did.
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    I always stand against a wall for max curls. If you're putting english into your curls, you're doing them wrong.

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    curl 100lbs with one hand or two?

    cause youve got respect in my book if you do it one handed.

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    Originally posted by The_Brick
    I think 100lbs is an old school mark of heaviness or something. My dad always used to talk about the one time he worked out in the olden days that him and his friends got 100lbs above their head.

    I curled 110 today for 2 reps if that helps your question. My stats are below.

    I would try that 500lbs thing with the right spotters. Emphasis on the "s" in spotters.


    Lifting a a pair of 100 dumbells above your head, was a test of strength in the old days.

    I wouldn't try that 500 lbs unless you can already bench about 450.
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