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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    Deadlifts....feet close together or sumo style???

    Do you prefer to have your feet close together and arms over shoulder width apart or feet REAL wide and hands close together?????
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    I prefer Sumo (feet real wide/ hands close together).
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    i prefer sumo as well
    "Eat until it hurts dammit! Then eat more. Youll get used to it. I think its like sex for a chick. Sure it hurts the first time, but after a couple rides it just goes in like a glove." -clvmike19

    "... chicks are like smarties. They're different colors but each share the same deliciousness. Its just a matter of deciding if you'll save the red ones for last or eat a bunch of different ones in the same handful." -wibble

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    Me too.

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    I like conventional.

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    Sumo!
    "damn...can't beat logic like that.
    NAte is exactly right." - Tryska

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    Conventional! It feels more "natural" to me.

    I luv Deadlift. Favorite exercise.

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    I like conventional for reps. But when I'm working real heavy I prefer to take it somewhat wider. Not quite as wide as most people sumo, but wider than conventional for sure.
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    Both.

    I am stronger at a wide sumo though, so that is my meet stance.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
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    Im still learning and im srue my forms off a bit, but i prefer sumo.

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    both, though im much stronger conventional.
    Pup, in reference to me: "he's like Budiak...but worse"

    Budiak: "Statistically I've gained almost an inch on my arms...but thats just theory, and we know what theory gets us. Thats right. Communism."

    BigChaseyChase: "Cutting, there will not be!"

    sir millard mulch: "I could probably punch some chick really hard at this point"

    Galileo - "Someday maybe I'll be able to use the big boy weights like RG570."

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    A very wide sumo. (feet almost touching the plates)

    Sumo is much stronger by about 20 pounds.
    Squat - 505
    Bench - 325
    Deadlift - 550
    Total - 1380@175

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    sumo!

    (hee hee just learned this yesterday)
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    I'm a fair bit stronger with conventional, but I prefer sumo as I have relatively long legs and it's impossible for me to do a full ROM with a conventional stance without my lower back rounding.

    I tend to use deadlifts primarily as a leg exercise as well, and feel a great more leg-involvement with a sumo stance when I go down to parallel (basically mirroring the ROM of a squat)

    We tend to think of Sisyphus as a tragic hero, condemned by the gods to shoulder his rock sweatily up the mountain, and again up the mountain, forever. The truth is that Sisyphus is in love with the rock. He cherishes every roughness and every ounce of it. He talks to it, sings to it. It has become the mysterious Other. He even dreams of it as he sleepwalks upward. Life is unimaginable without it, looming always above him like a huge gray moon. He doesn’t realize that at any moment he is permitted to step aside, let the rock hurtle to the bottom, and go home.

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    I'm about equally as strong on both. I used to prefer sumo, but lately I've been doing everything with a close stance...
    Big? Not really. I'm 5'7" 196 lbs.
    Strong? Like a bull!

    Bodyfat currently at : dropping
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    I'm really not sure anymore, my deads are being weird.(see journal)

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    I've only started trying deadlifts today, and i've only tried sumo style (I was advised to do this on account of my long legs), and I really enjoyed it. It seems very comfortable
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    I only dead conventional. If some people use a really wide stance for Sumo, they may be lifting heavier weights just because it's a shorter lift. With your legs spread way apart, you're standing with a shorter stance and not lifting the weight as far. I don't really know the technicalities of the differences, that's just my hypothesis.

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    Originally posted by AKraut
    I only dead conventional. If some people use a really wide stance for Sumo, they may be lifting heavier weights just because it's a shorter lift. With your legs spread way apart, you're standing with a shorter stance and not lifting the weight as far. I don't really know the technicalities of the differences, that's just my hypothesis.
    Well, but that's pretty obvious isn't it?

    To me the real advantage is being able to use a more upright position, it justs feels more natural.

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    conv.
    I would love to learn both styles but sumo isnt as easy for me.
    Age 23 Height 5'10 weight 210 2 years complete of serious lifting.
    At 5'10" last Jan/02 I was 280 Lbs with a 44 waist.
    Now as of Dec/02 I am 210 with a 34-36 waist. A year complete 70 pounds lost now lets get big .
    Goal Deadlift 500 by summer now..
    02/10/03 405X3 425X1
    02/17/03 435X1
    02/24/03 445X1
    03/03/03 455X1
    03/10/03 455X3 "rack pull" 500X1 "rack pull MISS"
    03/17/03 405X6, "Rack Pulls 505X3, 525X1.... 555X1 Miss"
    04/14/03 465X1 verry difficult
    05/12/03 475X1 Easy!!! 500X1 Miss"real close"
    05/19/03 435X5
    06/16/03 Rack pulls 555X2, 600Xmiss
    07/14/03 500X1 GOAL ACHIEVED!!!!
    10/06/03 500X4 555X1 Miss
    10/13/03 535X1
    11/10/03 Rack pull 500X7
    GOAL for 2004 get back to a low fat% and keep it 8 -10% would be great.
    06/29 rack pull 700X3
    07/6/04 600x1 at 216
    09/6/04 600X1 at 208 Rack pull 720X3
    NEW GOAL BENCH 400 BY FEB 2005 "not sure about this one"

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    Originally posted by AKraut
    ...If some people use a really wide stance for Sumo, they may be lifting heavier weights just because it's a shorter lift.
    If sumo is so much easier to lift heavier weights with, then why do some people that compete still use conventional?
    5-9 170

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    Sumo --> Shorter lift but weaker mucles for most people.

    So if your body is built for sumo you get an advantage over someone who is built for conventional.

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    I liek teh Conventional d3dz.
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