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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    MRI results back... bad news for me... :(

    I've been having a problem with my left wrist for months now. I finally got an MRI done and the doctor called me in the other day for the results.
    It seems I have a partial tear in one of the ligaments and a stretch in the other. The doctor doesn't think the tear will ever get better to the point that I'll be able to lift heavy weights again.
    She's booking me to see a hand surgeon and he'll decide if surgery will help any, but she's not too optimistic.
    I'm taking at least 3 weeks of weights and will see if that helps any, but she even said that shouldn't.

    Pretty hardening news for me. I can't believe I let it get to this point. tuttut
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    Regardless of what the doc says, go to a physiotherapist afterwards and they will work on rehab with you. If every person that a doctor told they'd never be able to walk again couldn't, there'd be a whole lot more wheel chair manufacturers in the world today.
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    If the hand specialist doesn't feel that you'll be able to lift after rehab and/or surgery, ask him about using a wrist wrap of some kind. If that answer is also "no," then I would get a second opinion.

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    oh ya I forgot to mention, the doctor said the last time she booked someone to see a hand surgeon, it took 18 months to get them in.

    this doctor is actually considered one of the best sports doctors in southwestern ontario. But I think I'll go to an old physiotherapist who's helped me in the past for a second opinion.

    I'm too the point that I can't even do 1 push-up right now. Anything that over-extends my wrist in that direction.
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    Well I'm sure there will be ways for you to adapt. I mean you could do pushups on your knuckles, which would keep your wrists straight, so no strain on any tendons or ligaments that way.
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    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

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    Originally posted by ElPietro
    Well I'm sure there will be ways for you to adapt. I mean you could do pushups on your knuckles, which would keep your wrists straight, so no strain on any tendons or ligaments that way.
    ya, but heavy benching and bicep curling exercises is where the problem occurs most. For the last month I've been using a brace and thats alleviated maybe half of the pain when working out..but it's only slowly gotten worse.
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    Introducing Delphi's World-Famous Wrist-Sparing Workout:

    Biceps
    Machine curls with your lower forearms moving the bar instead of gripping it with your hands. If the handle is attached by a chain you might be able to rig up some loops that go around the bar and your lower forearms. Either way you're taking the stress off your wrists by putting the load higher up on your forearms.

    Pecs
    Same thing with a pec dec machine.

    Triceps
    Pressdowns with a lat pulldown machine using your forearms as described above. If not you may be reduced to doing bench dips while wearing a wrist brace. I wouldn't try parallel bar dips though- too much weight concentrated too close to the wrist.

    Abs
    Crunches, twists, and side bends shouldn't be a problem.

    Upper Traps
    Hopefully you've got access to a machine for doing Heise shrugs. Otherwise get under a barbell in a squat rack or power cage and do shrugs with the barbell on your shoulders.

    Lats
    Seated rows- Two long nylon loops attached to a low pulley's handle or chain. Put each upper arm through a loop so that you're pulling back with lower part of each humerus, right above the elbow. You grab each loop with hand to help keep the loop from slipping. This one may be hard to visualize. Let me know if I need to clarify.
    Pulldown- same as above.

    Lower Back
    Good mornings with a barbell on your shoulders. Or sit down in front of a low pulley with one huge nylon strap looped around your torso. Do hyperextensions while seated. Or just do hyperextensions on a hyper/Roman chair device.

    Glutes
    Squats or reverse hypers.

    Quads
    Squats or machine leg extensions.

    Hamstrings
    Squats or machine leg curls.

    Calves
    Seated calf raises on a machine. Standing calf raises with a machine or with a barbell on your shoulders.

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    You can do it, bra. They told me after I broke my back that i would be able to lift again. After 16 months of pphysical therapy I was able to left plus I competed in a physic photo contest. I just can't do some stuff like heavy squats, but I do leg press.
    I'm working on being able to run now.
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    Thats funny what the Dr. said. They said something similar to Dave Tate after he tore his pec, they said he would never bench over 300 again, but now he can bench over 600. It will heal, and with the right mind-set, it could heal to its original or may even become stronger. And you will lift heavy again. Oh, and Louie Simmons almost broke his back, but he can now squat over 900 and he is over the age of 50. Injuries come and go, they come, then they heal, and are just a memory as you break PR's.
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    thanks for the encouragement and optisism guys.
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    So sorry to hear that...

    If you want an opinion from an Ortho call

    Dr.Vandersluis @ 416-335-5055 (Scarborough)

    he was the guy I got a second opinion from for my wrist and as soon as I get my MRI I'm getting some surgery

    he's not booked past a few weeks last I was there

    I would ask if getting the stretched ligament shortened and re-attatched would be any worse than what you have now

    and if you do get back to the training consider other variables like volume and frequency and try not to focus too much on weight

    the guy who mis-diagnosed me with stretched ligaments said I might be able to get away with training as long as I braced and strapped up

    I wear a glove with wrist strap combo + a normal strap for pulling and a brace with splints in it for everyting else

    best of luck and worst case scenario Delphi has some great suggestions for training around it

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    Hey avatar, sorry to hear about that.

    Just wondering, how did your injury happen and how did it progress?

    My right wrist has been bothering me for a few years now and throughout periods of intense training, it gets sore and sometimes to the point where i can't do a curl. It gets better with some rest though.

    Just wanted to know 'cause I do'nt wanna have a serious injury.

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    18 months to get in ????? Thats crap dude . Get down here in the states bro you'd already be in .

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    Originally posted by Holto


    Dr.Vandersluis @ 416-335-5055 (Scarborough)

    Dutch guy.

    I agree that you never know it will never heal until you actually find out it wont heal

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    Wow that's pretty rough. When i tore my pec last year the docs said my days of heavy benching were over. Well, it's been over a year and I'm stronger than I was before the injury. Just goes to show you that docs aren't always right or am I just stating the obvious?
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    Originally posted by Holto
    So sorry to hear that...

    If you want an opinion from an Ortho call

    Dr.Vandersluis @ 416-335-5055 (Scarborough)

    he was the guy I got a second opinion from for my wrist and as soon as I get my MRI I'm getting some surgery

    he's not booked past a few weeks last I was there

    thanks holto..if this hand surgeon in london takes forever to get me in, I may try your scarb. doc a try.
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    day…only then will they understand." -- Severed Ties

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