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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Latty's new strength routine

    I've told most of you that I've been a lazy biatch lately with no motivation, poor eating habits and in turn, poor inconsistent training. Well, that is all a thing of the past. I've set new goals, gotten myself really freakin motivated, got help with a routine from Maki and suggestions from Getin Bigger. I am ready to get strong. 4 days a week, pretty simple for now. Just looking to progress before I get into the different techniques, i.e. Westside or something along those lines. One day is only devoted to abs, obliques and calves, so won't be too demanding.

    BTW, Chris, this is a strength phase and I'm not sure how long it will go for, probably a while. When I look towards going into a hypertrophy phase, I shall look your way.

    Thanks everyone who helped me and those of you who will support me during my training.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    8/27

    Squat day
    Squats- 150 lbs 8x2(setsxreps)
    Arched back good mornings- 95 lbs 2x6, 105 lbs 2x6


    That's it. First day, so I had to try and guess poundages. I purposely underestimated my 1RM so that I could start a bit lighter. Over the next few weeks I will add weight gradually. Squats are done with 45 seconds rest. Good mornings were done with closer to 90-120 seconds rest.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Arched back and back that azz up!
    I'm referring to the Good Mornings.
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    "Soli Deo Gloria"
    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
    Romans 7:14-25

    "Judo is not about strength. Yet in the learning curve, all Judokas get strong. Only with time do you learn where to apply that strength."
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    Originally posted by Maki Riddington
    Arched back and back that azz up!
    I'm referring to the Good Mornings.
    are you sure you're talking about good mornings, maki?

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    So latty arching his back and backing that azz up is your idea of a good morning Maki? You cheeky monkey
    Better to die on your feet than live on your knees. - some guy

    This above all, to thine own self be true. - Polonius (ironic, eh?)

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    Proud Father Maki Riddington's Avatar
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    Well if you want to get technical no it's not.
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    "Soli Deo Gloria"
    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
    Romans 7:14-25

    "Judo is not about strength. Yet in the learning curve, all Judokas get strong. Only with time do you learn where to apply that strength."
    The Art of Judo

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    Re: Latty's new strength routine

    Originally posted by LATMAN
    I've told most of you that I've been a lazy biatch lately with no motivation, poor eating habits and in turn, poor inconsistent training. Well, that is all a thing of the past. I've set new goals, gotten myself really freakin motivated, got help with a routine from Maki and suggestions from Getin Bigger. I am ready to get strong. 4 days a week, pretty simple for now. Just looking to progress before I get into the different techniques, i.e. Westside or something along those lines. One day is only devoted to abs, obliques and calves, so won't be too demanding.

    BTW, Chris, this is a strength phase and I'm not sure how long it will go for, probably a while. When I look towards going into a hypertrophy phase, I shall look your way.

    Thanks everyone who helped me and those of you who will support me during my training.


    Yes Lats, I really have no clue how to develop strength .

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    He never said that, just that there are better people to ask......

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    Geez, I go to work for a few hours and look what happens.


    Chris- That wasn't what I was referring too. I feel you actually know exactly what I meant, you just wanted to let it be known that you are a strong mofo. That is true, but I wanted to give some of these other techniques a try.


    Maki- I know that sounded really gay, but I get what you mean. It really helped to watch the videos of the guys at Westside demonstrating technique.
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    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
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    Calves, abs
    Standing calf raises on Smith- 125 lbs 2x25
    Hanging knee raise- 2 sets
    Kneeling cable crunch- 2 sets
    Side bends- 2 sets


    I haven't done real calf or ab training for ages. I went easy, but will still probably be sore, lol.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Some days you all amuse me. Lats, I know you weren't trying to insult me. I do find your (all of you) perceptions of who I am and what I think amusing at times. Lats, why exactly do you think that I would not recommend training a bit differently if your primary goal was strength? Cack, as far as better people to ask, I think that my maximum lifts (over my years of training), overall, exceed those of anyone on this site, so why exactly would there be someone better ? Oh wait, is it because I am some sort of a genetic freak? Pleeaase....

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    chris, i think you're good buff and good looking

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    Because you are the almighty Chris Mason and all shall only be inferior, of course.

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    well i dunno if all are inferior to him.. but cack, you sure as hell are!

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    Originally posted by Cackerot69
    Because you are the almighty Chris Mason and all shall only be inferior, of course.

    Well, far from it. There are obviously people quite a bit bigger and stronger than me out there. Of course there is also God. Yes Cack, I am confident in myself and my abilities, but also fully cognizant of my own faults. When it comes to weightlifting, however, the faults are very few and far between. Anyone who heeds my advice on that subject shall not be led astray.

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    Well, consider that Latty has been using your methods for quite a while and basically got nowhere. So, he wants to try something else in hopes of better results, because obviously what you espouse didn't work very well for him.

    I know what you do works well for you, we all do...but it's not the only way and not the best for everyone is every situtation.

    Ok, I'm done fooking up Latty's journal....

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    I was unaware that he was using my methods, actually. As I seem to recall it, he was playing sports and lifting had gone on the backburner. I also recall that he had asked for a routine, and I had not gotten around to providing it. I will attribute that little lapse on your part to the lack of carbohydrates in your diet, you know, the brain can only use carbs for fuel......

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    He's been using your basic principles for his whole time training as he sits at a whopping 150lbs and weak...with a gut, haha. Ahem, sorry Latty.

    BTW, if the brain could only use carbs as fuel I'd be dead right now...

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    Actaully you are quite wrong about being dead. Maybe that nutrition course will teach you a thing or two. The brain can only use glucose as fuel, if you don't eat it, the brain will break down protein to get it.

    I am not sure what you mean by saying he has been using my basic principles, as you are not fully aware of all of my basic principles. Low volume alone will not make Johnny a big boy.

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    BTW Chris, you obviously do not understand the state of ketosis (which is probably why you advocated against me using it). When in ketosis the body produces ketones (a byproduct of FAT metabolism) which the brain can use as fuel. Thus, glucose is not the only source of fuel for the brain.

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    Originally posted by Cackerot69
    OK, I'm done fooking up Latty's journal....

    Did anyone else read this?????

    Geez, mutherfuggin arguing biatches. Take that **** somewhere else or else I'll start an upper chest argument in Chris's journal and a raising the heels during squatting thread in Cack's journal!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
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    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Haha, sorry about that latty.

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    Originally posted by LATMAN
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    Squat day
    Squats- 150 lbs 8x2(setsxreps)
    skinny lil biatch!, i can jump squat 120 haha
    "The whole jedi thing was just not compatible with my lifestyle. My master was jelous he was always holding me back, -"be mindfull of the future, but live in the present"- what the hell does that mean? I even got my arm cut off...it just sucked. So i switched to the dark side and i havent looked back once...Now i am shooting lightning from my fingertips, choking people over the phone, i even get to wear a cape.....its just boss. My name is Anikin skywalker and i am a sith lord."

    "i have the sex drive of 10 rabbits on viagra"

    age: 19
    height: 5'8'' (im lieing its probably 5'7'')
    weight: 159-165 lbs (morning and day)
    bodyfat: 8.6
    bench:315
    squat:405
    Deadlift:500

    goals for end of the year 405/500/600 at 170-175(with the 8pack)

    other: dips 3 and a quarter plates for 4 reps

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    Those are speed squats, idjit-- they're supposed to be light.
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