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    I switched to full squats from quarter squats...

    I feel a whole new kind of soreness now..

    Although, on the first rep of my first set, I let my knees go past my toes and it was quite painful coming up. I didn't make that mistake again and I felt no knee pain or tension.

    Someone said, "the only muscle 1/4 squats exercise is your ego," which applies to me quite a bit heh. I could do about 215 in 1/4 squat but if I do full squats, I'm struggling with 135 by the time the end of the 3rd set rolls around.

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    Good for you, ATF squats are the real deal.
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    whats your reason for doing 1/4 squats?
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Originally posted by body
    whats your reason for doing 1/4 squats?
    I didn't know better.. thats how I was taught when I started lifting seriously in the beginning of this summer.

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    Just for my clarity, by "quarter squats" you mean about halfway to parallel (like most people you see in the gym), correct?

    Squatting to parallel is a valid way to exercise too.
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    Good for you utah82. One thing you can be sure of is that you'll always look better using proper form over trying to load up the weight.

    It's important to check your ego at the door, and you did. Way to go.
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    Originally posted by Scott S
    Just for my clarity, by "quarter squats" you mean about halfway to parallel (like most people you see in the gym), correct?

    Squatting to parallel is a valid way to exercise too.
    Yeah, I was. I didn't feel like I was gaining or making an impact... and after I read the bit about 1/4 squats only exercising the ego, I decided to switch it up and see how it went. I'm definitely sold though.

    Originally posted by Tim Nissen
    Good for you utah82. One thing you can be sure of is that you'll always look better using proper form over trying to load up the weight.

    It's important to check your ego at the door, and you did. Way to go.
    Thanks dude, appriciate the vote of confidence.
    Last edited by utah82; 09-08-2003 at 03:48 PM.

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    1/4 squats are for wimps who don't want to know what real pain is.

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    You can train your squat lockout with 1/4 ROM squats, but that would be more on if you planned on competing, or for some reason just wanted to focus on your 1rm. So sure they have their place, but no, not in the way people are speaking of them here.

    Good job with the new form, makes a huge difference.

    I think squatting with good form is so rare it shouldn't even be called squats anymore, to distinguish it from what most others typically do in a gym. Need to come up with a new name...
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    What does ATF stand for? Is that just another name for full squats?

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    ass to floor

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    LP: Squatastics? Squatasms? Squatarians? Non-wussy squats? :P

    I just chuckle under my breath when I see someone doing 1/4 (more like 1/8th) squats with a "heavy" weight, like 225. Ooooooo two, plates, and a whole 3" ROM!!! I end up laughing uproariously but then everyone stares at me and they think I'm stupid, which I am. Stop reading now. I'm just in my own little world.

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    LOL

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    We call it Novasquatsamid, or decasquatsinabol, then trademark the name, write an article to a men's fitness type mag about our revolutionary new supplement.....guaranteed to make you a freak!. Distribute exculsively through At Large, and we're millionares
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    Why don't we just call them ATF squats?

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    Originally posted by MixmasterNash
    LP: Squatastics? Squatasms? Squatarians? Non-wussy squats? :P

    I just chuckle under my breath when I see someone doing 1/4 (more like 1/8th) squats with a "heavy" weight, like 225. Ooooooo two, plates, and a whole 3" ROM!!! I end up laughing uproariously but then everyone stares at me and they think I'm stupid, which I am. Stop reading now. I'm just in my own little world.
    Yeah. People really wonder why the hell I stare at them and laugh when they're doing "squats." Although the pussies in the gym here rarely venture above the 185 mark, even for 1/4 (or as I call em pussy squats). Then people stare at me when doing ATF's with around what they 1/4 squat. They ask wtf I do that for; "you know that going past a coupla inches above parallel will, like totally f**k up your knees, don't you?" LMFAO
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    I've seen maybe 2 other guys in my gym that actually do ATF squats. Some of the hardcore BBers in my gym actually have commended me on doing them the proper way. That means a lot, especially since I feel that I'm not able to do much weight. It's just encouraging.

    Sure, I could do more weight if I only went down 1/4 of the way. But why would I want to?

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    I don't see how a 285 squat is "not able to do much weight". Even if it is a 1RM. Good work there.
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    Thanks Max. I'm just dying to slide on that 3rd plate though.

    No matter how much weight I can lift, I always feel that I can do more. And squats keep me up at night. lol

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    Seriously, 285 is quite excellent for your weight. If done with proper form, I imagine that's stronger than 99.9% of the people in the world, the other 0.1% being pro athletes and power/oly lifters.

    Let's put it this way: I've seen ONE person besides me squat below parallel with 315 or more at the UNC gym in 4 years. He was clearly a (former) football player type, possibly now PL, and was using chains. Obviously the real NCAA athletes probably do it regularly (at their own swanky gym), but out of the general population it never happens.

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    Wow, I didn't realize. Must be all those miles I ran in High school.

    I also am up to 580 on the calf machine (highest it goes ) and max out on the leg press at 985. I tried to crack 1000 about 4 weeks ago, but failed.

    Still, I'd like to hit 330 on the squat. My progress has been slow, but steady. And it's true what they say. Your mind HAS to be in the right place in order to squat.

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    Originally posted by drew
    Your mind HAS to be in the right place in order to squat.
    couldn't agree more. that's why i failed my last 350 attempt

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    I can't stand smith machine squats. I am thinking of doing squats with weight only but at a manageable amount so I can compltete them. I don't like leaning back on Smith machine.

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    I quit the Smith about 6 weeks ago and I've never been happier. I was making no progress using the Smith machine. Just get off it, you'll never go back.

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    so parallel squats are also real squats? i have been doing them but then i thought they were 1/4 squats. i usually get to a lil bit below sitting position. anymore info would be much appreciated.

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    This was day 2 of my atf squats.. I was only doing 155lbs but I've found its much easier to keep my weight centered on my heals when I do ATF versus parallel or 1/4 squats. I'm really digging it plus I feel as if my quads and glutes are actually getting a workout now instead of just the "eh that wasnt so bad" feeling

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