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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    kubotan

    For any of you martial artists out there, I bought my GF one of these things for her to carry around on her key chain, basically as a simple jab tool.

    Do you know of other techniques simple enough to be usefull as self-defence?
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    It actually takes a good bit of practice to use one effectively, and usually it involves getting much closer to an assailant than most women would like. She'd be better off getting somebody to demonstrate/instruct her properly, hand-to-hand combat is not something you learn on the internet. And while being able to fight back is good, fighting back ineffectively will just piss the person off.

    Pepper spray is a better bet, IMO. Or, as I said, go find an expert with one of those things.

    Best bet, really, is to buy her a chain whip and teach her how to use that.
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    I got mine a retractable police baton and pepper spray. I think it works better.

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    Baretta 3032, or a Colt detective special .38

    Mrs Stagg, of course, not being a scofflaw, carries mace.
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    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    I dont know any woman who carries self defence attributes

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    I don't need any weapons since my skeleton is made of pure anamatium and I have retractable claws.


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    My girlfriend has a "Kitty of Doom" on her keychain, which is essentially plastic brass-knuckles with 2 ear spikes to jab some dirty bastard's eyes out. She won't carry pepper spray, so it's an alternative I guess.

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    Me? Noooo.

    I don't have a concealed carry permit, and I would NEVER violate a statute to protect myself. Clearly the government knows better than I just how dangerous that could be. I'll just trust that there will always be an armed representative of the state nearby if I ever need to defend myself using force.

    (Luckily, 5'11" 225 pound angry men don't typically face situations where they become victims.)
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    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    i'm jsut prepared to flail, kick, and try to scratch.


    in other words...i'm f*cked. thankfully i rarely get f*cked with.
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    If your girlfriend uses that thing, she's going to get hurt, badly. She needs to be taught by a professional. And I don't mean some hokey self defense class where everyone wears huge padded suits and act everything out in super slow motion. I mean the kind of self defense classes where there is a good chance you'll get some bruises, but you'll learn to do things in a much more real environment.

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    Take her to the range a couple times a month and get her a snubnose .38.
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    Get her a gun bro , I have a concealed weapon permit and I cant wait to "pop a cap in some ones a$$" . hahah just kidding .

    Really get a handgun .
    Give me your broken , give me your beaten ... I will build them up , I will lead them ... to the threshhold . Make you stronger , make you believe .

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    Here is the rule of thumb, dont cary it unless you are willing to have it taken from you and used against you. As for carring a handgun, real world situation-------you would never get it out in time. I bet you would get taken 9 out of 10 times. Its called the reactionary gap, try this put it in a holster like you would normally carry the weapon. Have someone stand 21 feet away and have them charge you. I bet you dont draw the gun and fire before they get to you. Now imagine they had a knife, you lose. If you choose to carry a weapon you should devote ALOT of time to weapon retention and drawing it the way you would carry it. I can go on forever about this but I will cut it short. Let me know if you have any ?'s!

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    Here is my rule of thumb , I carry and if I know someone is coming chances are they would never get my pistol . If you dont know someone is coming most people are done anyway .

    I'm a big cracker and I've been in worse situations than a lot of cops without my pistol .

    The problem is people dont prepare well for those types of situations . Women can have purse holsters and have their hand in their purse ready to rock if they are in a odd situation ( alleys , parking ramps and such) . IMO women carrying with those types of holsters have the advantage over almost anyone . You dont know their hand is on some serious heat whereas mine is stuck under4 layers of clothes .

    Knives are one of the best weapons around , you could stick someone 5 or 6 times before they knew what was happening .

    Most people are morons and get their smack taken away because they are ill prepared to recognize a threat let alone know how to aviod one .

    So the best rule of thumb is , carry only if you WILL prepare your self properly .
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    The problem with your argument is that most people on the street aren't just going to kill you. They're going to mug you. That means they stand in front of you and demand your money. That gives you plenty of time to reach behind you like you're going for your wallet and then instead pull your gun.

    Most criminals aren't willing to risk their lives. If they even SEE a gun, they'll run.
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    Well thanks for the replies guys, unfortunately it is pretty much impossible to carry a concealed weapon here in T.O.

    The reason I got her this is because it is not very likely to be taken away from her(compared to oiher weapons), and in case it is, not likely to be used against her. Also, its on her keys so she would almost always have it with her in her hand. I really don't expect anything to happen to her, hopefully, but there have been some reported assaults on women in her area, so I though in any last ditch senario a quick jab with the thing might have some effect in an attack.

    Would y'all agree or would she be better off with nothing? I am just wondering if jabbing with the thing is the best technique or if there's something else she could do with it.

    I don't think she'll be taking any self-defence classes any time soon, possibly in the near future though.
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    What the heck is kubotan????
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    Originally posted by CanadianHomer
    What the heck is kubotan????
    Thats what I clicked on this thread to find out. lol
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    Greetings.

    My qualifications: I live in Toronto sometimes, doing university out of town.
    I have consulted with several knife vendors.
    I do MA and research that stuff online a bit.


    Carrying a kabuton is apparently illegal according to the vendors.
    Maybe I should ask a policeman or lawyer.
    (I carry something similar to a kabuton around myself.)


    Knives are even more illegal, with more penalties.
    No reason for normal citizens to carry one around unless it is for work. Like carrying a box cutter.

    See if you can get some high quality pepper spray, I've also heard good things about extendables (don't be dirty) wands like ASP.




    "What the heck is kubotan????"
    Try www.google.com my friend.

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    http://www.securityplanet.com/3101.htm

    Read the info there.
    Go down towards to bottom for pics.

    There are various models.

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    Based on what I've seen here on WBB Tryska, I'd think anyone who ****ed with you irl would be making a REALLY big mistake. I mean that in a good way. I'm not sure some idiot wants half of WBB to come down to Atlanta or wherever to beat the crap out of them either come to think about it.
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    I like to get beat up by Tryska on a regular basis, following the religion of Gynoism.
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    I'd have to agree with the snibnose .38
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    best thing you can do for her is to get her to train and improve her running speed/endurance

    that, and the ability to deliver a solid knee to the attacker's scrotum will do her a lot more good than dicking around with some 'weapon' she's not trained with

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    *lol* shroud and SF - yeah i don't get f*cked with much.

    actually got into a minor traffic altercation this morning. the dude called me the c-word - so i gave him a lecture on why he was stuck blocking traffic and looking liek an a$$hole. now maybe he'll be nicer to other drivers.

    drove like he was in a beemer, and it was only a toyota.
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