The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Originally posted by bradley
    http://www.thinkmuscle.com/newsletter/021.htm

    There is some more info regarding bodyfat setpoint in the Q&A section. You will have to scroll down a little to find the article.
    Thanks.

    Good read.

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    Originally posted by bradley


    I think he is implying that it is a contributing factor, not the only factor.
    When I took phsiology a few years back "they" were saying that this could actually be set by the time we're toddlers. I'm not saying that's true just what they were teaching a few years ago.

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    Hehe, Thx for the article Bradley. An interesting read.
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    Originally posted by bradley


    I think he is implying that it is a contributing factor, not the only factor.



    I think the key word is "dieted," and I doubt it would have that much of an effect on your setpoint, since once you hit puberty these connections in the brain are already being formed. I would suspect that kids who are forced to go on diets as children/adolescents will be more likely to have food issues later on in life.
    I agree.
    I have a friend who has this problem. Unfortunately when he was young Him and his brothers Refrigerator was chained by the parents to limit the overall food consumption to breakfast small lunch and a dinner (no snacks). This actually created a sibling rivalry over food during meal-time. Nuff said they both have eating/binging problems to this day, and they basically eat whatever they can buy mass qty's of for cheap. (Even if its crap like donuts or Fraunhaufers Poundcakes)
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    an interesting thought to what determines set point is that with the rise of adolescent obesity, are we as a society determining the set point of these children to be obese??
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    Originally posted by raniali
    an interesting thought to what determines set point is that with the rise of adolescent obesity, are we as a society determining the set point of these children to be obese??
    I think it would be an indirect effect, with the direct effect being a higher percentage of children's calories are coming from calorie dense snack foods, sodas, etc. This is causing an increase in bodyfat, which in turns keep the bodyfat setpoint moving in the wrong direction. Although my comments are based on the theory that you can increase bf setpoint much easier than you can decrease it (if you can decrease it at all).

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    Originally posted by bradley


    I think it would be an indirect effect, with the direct effect being a higher percentage of children's calories are coming from calorie dense snack foods, sodas, etc. This is causing an increase in bodyfat, which in turns keep the bodyfat setpoint moving in the wrong direction. Although my comments are based on the theory that you can increase bf setpoint much easier than you can decrease it (if you can decrease it at all).
    Bump on that, but its strange how we could increase it but not decrease it..

    However if you think about human history and evolution, we use to have long bingie periods followed by longer fasting periods.. so in reality it would be smart for us to not beable to decrease it, if the bf% setpoint was lowered during these long periods of very little food, then when the food did come our bodies would not store much of it as fat.

    Get what im saying here?

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    Originally posted by defcon


    Bump on that, but its strange how we could increase it but not decrease it..
    Not really. Did you read the Q&A article that I posted? Once these "connections" are made in your brain they are there for good. Have you ever been able to un-learn something?

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    Yup.... i got knocked out skateboarding once, and i forgot what i was trying to do in the first place.. bleh nevermind.. i remember now :P

    but yeah.. i guess that makes sense. I will be trying all day to unlearn sumthing

    BUT, in the same sense.. we can learn new things to cover up previous thoughts, as in school.. first they teach you 1 way to do a problem, then later on they teach you another, eaiser way to solve more complicated problems.. then you often forget the other way.. for example.. i forget my multiplication tables for some numbers :P * hides in embarrasement *. SO according to this, wouldn't it be possible to still change the bf% setpoint, by forcing a new one onto our body. I do not have any idea how we would go about it.. but eh.. it follows good logic IMO

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