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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    A$$ to Floor and Front Squats

    This off season im adding a few more styles of squats to my routine. ATF and Front Squats are two that i am adding. I want to be able to do them with a failry close stance, like shoulder width or maybe even just inside. right now ,due to body mechanics i believe, it is sorta akward for me to squat that low with that style and not lose balance. but if i elevate my heels a bit on some small weight plates that helps ou alot. but ive heard that it isnt a good idea to squat with elevated heels, so what should i do, try to do them with elevtaed heals on small weigth plates or just keep practicing them flat footed until i can do them ass to floor with a close stance and not feel akward and lose my balance?
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    Using the plates would be just fine.


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    Yeah I have a bad habit of raising my heels on squats as well. I've been trying to break it for a while now, without much luck. I think it goes back to when I was a kid and I used to walk on my toes.
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    hmmm ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Patrick
    Yeah I have a bad habit of raising my heels on squats as well. I've been trying to break it for a while now, without much luck. I think it goes back to when I was a kid and I used to walk on my toes.
    If you are raising the heels (and I am assuming that your overall form is good- not leaning too far forward, etc) then a lot of times it is due to hip/hamstring flexiblity problems. Try stretching for just a little bit before you squat (making sure to hit the hip flexors and hamstrings) after you have warmed up. Then I work on increasing my ROM doing more stretching on off-leg days.

    That has not only helped out my squat, but also my lower back tightness as well. You don't have to get into super flexiblity routines, just some maintenance work. See if that helps any.

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    Well...........good thing this thread came about......

    I thought you were supposed to squat with heels raised......
    Time for me to do more research.

    Then again my knees have problems, but I'm going to see the physio docter soon.

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    I learned early on that raised heels are bad news- why I cant exactly remember. Knee problems? My issues come from not going deep enough- I find at the lowest point im thrusting my hips back and then coming up a little crooked from the waist... pausing at the lowest point with low weights and alot of stretching has helped some, too... so why do the old timers thump into our heads not to use plates under the heels? Besides looking like your wearing high heels to squat in, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medevac
    If you are raising the heels (and I am assuming that your overall form is good- not leaning too far forward, etc) then a lot of times it is due to hip/hamstring flexiblity problems. Try stretching for just a little bit before you squat (making sure to hit the hip flexors and hamstrings) after you have warmed up. Then I work on increasing my ROM doing more stretching on off-leg days.

    That has not only helped out my squat, but also my lower back tightness as well. You don't have to get into super flexiblity routines, just some maintenance work. See if that helps any.
    You're probably right. I'm very inflexible in my legs. I always have been. I have short tendons, so I can barely touch my toes.

    Other than the raised heels, my form and ROM are good.
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    Why not start doing some box squats to get the feel for sitting back into the squat?
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    i already do box squats but i use my normal stance, but i guess i can give them a try with a close stance.
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    In general, squatting with your heels raised isn't such a hot idea. You'll be better served by fixing your flexibility issues.
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