How do you guys find push/pull splits as oppossed to other splits eg. chest&back/legs/arms&shoulders?
And also do you think a muscle group is best worked at once eg. chest(bench press),chest(incl. press),back,(row),back(pull ups) or distributed throughout the workout eg. chest(bench press),back,(row),chest(incl. press),back(pull ups) ?
Personally, I'm more inclined to do a push/pull/legs split 'cause you can work all major/secondary muscles in one shot, you don't have to do as many sets and can get more rest time (ie growth time)....so for example...on chest/shoulders/triceps days, when you work chest, your shoulders and triceps are going to get work as they are hit by lots of chest exercises (especially pressing movements). So after chest, your shoulders and triceps are in effect 'warmed up' and you can just jump right into your working sets for those muscle groups.
Also, I find that working chest and back on the same day is rough....personally after a back workout I don't want to be near the gym for a few days.
Anyways...just my humble two cents!
couldn't the weak link become triceps on push and biceps on pull days due to fatigue, thus reducing the amount of weight that can be lifted and the amount of stress imparted on the pecs/shoulders or back? Does that make sense?
What I mean is, on push days do your triceps get so fatigued during bench press that you can't get a decent delt workout because you can't overhead press very much? Is this even logical? I'm just curious because I might like to try a push/pull split.
diego, I really like push/pull routines. Before I started westside, it was the only routine I used. If I decide to take a break from PL routines, I will definitely use push/pull. When deciding what order to train, work biggest to smallest. Eg, chest-->shoulders-->triceps.
mckinley, no, it won't stop you from getting a good shoulder/tricep workout. You'll be using less weight, obviously, but the amount of work done should be the same when you take into account the indirect work done in previous exercises.
I've done push/pull, push/pull/legs, and push/pull/legs/deadlift routines and all of them were great. I think the 3 and 4 day split were the ones I had the best gains on though. Sometimes I find doing push/pull with all the leg stuff added in can be a bit much.
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When I say push/pull, I mean legs/push/pull (squat/bench/dead).