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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    Thinking of competing in 1st powerlifting meet, tons of questions

    Hey guys, I'm thinking of entering a meet with this all natural organization:

    http://www.nasa-sports.com/

    Is this a good organization for a natural lifter?

    I see that the winner and state record holder did 457lbs on the bench at last yr's Ohio state meet in my class, 280lbs, 24-29 yrs old. I have done 465 raw in my basement. I've never used a shirt before. Any suggestions on a good single ply? No canvas allowed. What about a lifting suit? What can I expect at the meet? Any suggestions on attire/equipment?

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    What do you mean, all natural organization? What isn't allowed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalianGalleon
    What do you mean, all natural organization? What isn't allowed?
    The only things I take are creatine on and off, and protein.

    NASA Banner Substance List

    Banned Substances
    The following is a list of banned drug classes:


    Stimulants:
    Amiphenazole
    Amphetamine
    Bemigride
    Benzphetamine
    Bromantan
    Caffeine
    Chlorphentermine
    Cocaine
    Cropropamide
    Crothetamine
    Dimethylamphetamine
    Doxapram
    Ephedrine
    Ethamivan
    ethylamphetamine


    Anabolic Agents:
    Anabolic Steriods
    Androstenediol
    Androstenedione
    Boldenone
    Clostebol
    Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone
    Testosterone
    Dehydroepiandrosterone
    (DHEA)
    Dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
    Dromostanolone
    Fluoxymesterone
    Mesterolone
    Methandienone
    Methenolone


    3. Diuretics:
    Acetazolamide
    Bendroflumethiazide
    Benzthiazide
    Bumetanide
    fencamfamine
    meclofenoxate
    methamphetamine
    methylphenidate
    nikethamide
    pemoline
    pentetrazol
    phendimetrazine
    phenmetrazine
    picrotoxine
    pipradol
    prolintane
    strychnine
    and related compounds
    methyltestosterone
    nandrolone
    norandrostendiol
    norandrostenedione
    norethandrolone
    oxandrolone
    oxymesterone
    oxymetholonestanozolol
    testosterone
    and related compounds


    Other Anabolic Agents
    clenbuterol
    hydroflumethiazide
    methyclothiazide
    metolazone
    polythiazide

    Chlorothiazide quinethazone
    Chlorthalidone spironolactone
    Ethacrynic acid triamterene
    Flumethiazide trichlormethiazide
    Furosemide and related compounds
    Hydrochlorothiazide

    Peptide Hormones and Analogues
    Chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG-human chorionic gonadotrophin)
    Corticotrophin (ACTH)
    Growth hormone (HGH, somatotrophin)
    All the respective releasing factors of the above-mentioned substances also are
    banned.
    Erythropoietin (EPO)


    The following is a definition of positive for this list.
    • For Caffeine – if the concentration in urine exceeds 12 micrograms/ml
    • For Testosterone – if the administration of testosterone or the use of any other
    manipulation has the result of increasing the ratio of the total concentration of
    testosterone to that of epitestosterone in the urine to greater that 6:1, unless
    there is evidence that this ratio is due to a physiological or pathological
    condition.


    Equipment list:
    Equipment Allowed

    Single Ply Equipment Only

    Single Ply Squat Briefs Allowed

    1 Meter (36") Wrist Wraps Allowed

    2 Meter (72") Knee Wraps Allowed

    Open Backed Shirts Allowed

    Denim & Poly Suits and shirts Allowed

    All Shoes must have a separate sole

    Belts not wider than 4" at wides point



    Equipment NOT Allowed

    Any and All Canvas Equipment

    Briefs that extend above the lifters waistline

    Any Equipment more than Single Ply
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC
    ... I have done 465 raw in my basement.
    By competition rules? If so: good job!

    I've never used a shirt before. Any suggestions on a good single ply?
    From what I understand a Titan Fury is the best single-ply poly. Haven't used one myself yet.

    What about a lifting suit?
    Dunno. Never wore one.

    What can I expect at the meet?
    A good deal of people willing to help.

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    I don't know the organization, but I'd say go regardless of how you think you will do. Use whatever equipment you can get accustom to in time for the competition, otherwise don't worry about it. Also, don't put too much pressure on yourself to win or place well. Go and have some fun. Meet some of the lifters and take it all in. Everyone there I'm sure will be very supportive. This sport breeds a lot of comradery, so just go in with a positive attitude and you will be assured to have a positive experience.

    Or at least that's been my experience from the one meet I was involved in, and the people I met there. I didn't actually lift though.
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    Go for it.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    Titan Fury is a good single ply shirt, as is the Inzer Phenom. A good single ply denim would be better than either of those, but takes much longer to master.

    Re: squat suit, Titan makes a good one, Inzer's Hardcore seems to be the gold standard of single ply suits, and that's about it, given your restrictions.

    Re: breifs, don't bother with the groove breifs from Inzer. I have ordered several pair, and have never been able to get them more than halfway up my thighs. They are next to worthless, IMO.

    And about NASA, they seem to be the best out there amongst the "clean" organizations. The guy who runs it lives about 100 miles away from me, as a side note. I don't care much for the clean organizations, personally, they seem to be on a major agenda to discount big lifts, and don't seem to be very freindly toward the lifter, in general. However, I have had friends lift in NASA and they seemed to like it.

    Good luck and for God's sake, don't drink any coffee before you lift. We all know that is what killed Lyle Alzado.

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