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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Beginners

    Ok, I've been reading some stuff over again, and I keep running into differences between beginners and the advance.. I mean, other then the fact the advanced are actually in shape. What I mean is that I've found stuff like (this one from something cack said) beginners not being able to burn out because of having a harder time recruit fibers. And also, when designing programs for beginners, so of you will suggest doing a full body workout in a single day, and just do that 2x or 3x a week, and then later on going into one muscle group per week.

    Guess my questions are these.. what are all differences that exist between beginners and, well, you people. Why are they there? And.. how long does a beginner have to be training before they go away?

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    I classify a begginer as someone who is either just starting to workout or has no clue what they are doing. I usually get them to do a push,pull,legs split and sometimes a full body a few times a week. after a month or so of full body I'd tell them to try a push/pull/leg split.
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    Ok, but like I was saying.. why would you have that difference? Why do a full body workout three times a week when your just beginning, when later on working a single muscle group more then once will be classified as overtraining (least that's what I'm finding reading peoples posts).
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    At first you can only recrut a limited amount of muscle fibres but as you lift more you are able to recruit more fibres. The main reason I would put someone on a fullbody is to just get them used to lifting and the different exercises.
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    Squat...- 403..........................Squat....- 395 w/belt
    Bench...- 303..........................Bench....- 300....Paused in meet - 281
    Deadlift.- 503.....Unofficial 513...Deadlift..- 490
    Total....- 1,203...IPF Class II......All done raw, Touch'n go bench

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    Ok. Wasn't sure if there was any other differences other then the fibre recruiting thing. That's pretty much what I was curious about. Thanks.
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    I consider myself late intermediate to advanced. Why? I know what I'm doing, and if I go to failure on all sets, 6 sets is max I'll be able to accomplish in a workout. Hence, I don't train to failure much.
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    At first you can only recrut a limited amount of muscle fibres but as you lift more you are able to recruit more fibres.
    I don't buy it. I started out a year and a half ago (a beginner)and I did the same thing as any "advanced" bodybuilder did just with a lot less weight so that I could get my form down properly before trying to go heavier and to failure. Please tell me where you got that information. I'm not trying to flame you, I just don't believe that and if you could give me the reference so that I can read up on it myself I'd appreciate it cause I am here to learn just like everyone else and I'm not one to just listen and follow blindly to whatever anyone tells me. Thanks.
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