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It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    calves HELP!!!

    i have well defined legs about 25inches on both but my calves seem never to grow i just started training them 2 weeks ago this is my exerceise for calves
    1. calf raises using leg press
    2. calf raises using hack squat
    3. sitting down donkey calf raises
    4. side of platform using my own body weight to do isolation calf raises one leg at a time

    is there any exercise that i am missing?
    oh yea i also hate my calves cause i have BUTT calves i want to get that long calf look but dont knwo how to achieve that any suggestions?
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    Ive put on 1 1/2 inchs on my calves in about 4 months


    What worked for me:- Low rep heavy heavy heavy calve raises (till failure)

    ALso messing about with pointing the feet different ways, IE neutral, then facing out and facing in, to hit all the various parts of the muscle.. At the moment i face in it just seems to burn more


    I messed with taking out the toe extenders (or whatever) which is raising the toes so you are just using the balls of your feet.. You wont be able to lift as much weight but apparantly it purifies the lifting target to JUST calves not all the other weird crap






    Maybe this worked for me cos i had really skinny calves (13""), and i cycle about 50 miles a week... Just ****ty genetics
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    i like drop sets for calves to make sure u really hit every last fiber
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    wuts a drop set?
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    Quote Originally Posted by latinomasfino
    i have well defined legs about 25inches on both but my calves seem never to grow i just started training them 2 weeks ago this is my exerceise for calves
    1. calf raises using leg press
    2. calf raises using hack squat
    3. sitting down donkey calf raises
    4. side of platform using my own body weight to do isolation calf raises one leg at a time

    is there any exercise that i am missing?
    oh yea i also hate my calves cause i have BUTT calves i want to get that long calf look but dont knwo how to achieve that any suggestions?
    1. 2 weeks isn't enough time to notice a change.

    2. Lot's of calf work but you have it all covered.

    3. You can't get that long calf look. If you don't have it already, then it isn't going to change. Everyone has a different shape to their muscles and doing a specific lift to change the shape of it isn't possible. Just lift, eat to bulk, and rest. That will make your calves bigger. If you do this things correctly, you'll see changes in about a month or 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrulez
    ALso messing about with pointing the feet different ways, IE neutral, then facing out and facing in, to hit all the various parts of the muscle.. At the moment i face in it just seems to burn more
    This is exactly what I do, and I have seen results.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal
    i like drop sets for calves to make sure u really hit every last fiber
    I also do this type of workout too. At my gym, we have a machine, thats vertical, on a slight slant, called the calf raise, were the weight is put on the shoulders. I Will do like 12 slow REALLY heavy reps, then drop it down about Half of what it was for the heavy reps, and pump out like 30-40 reps. It is nothing less than torture...

    P.S. Kudos to Airforcerugby for that calf excercise.
    Last edited by Ebu; 04-02-2004 at 02:41 PM.
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    Heavy sets and alot of them. Drop sets are also a good way to get them growing.

    Also, variation in the workout. Change up the routine you do for them often.
    Last edited by GrumpyTX; 04-02-2004 at 03:17 PM.

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    Trust me, long calves suck. ( I have them)

    Short achilles tendon so I can't jump as high as certiain other people

    I'd rather have the short calves with long tendon
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    I've found that form and speed is very important. Do not bounce at the bottom. Use as full range of motion as possible. Flex very hard. I see a lot of guys doing a lot of weight with 2" range of motion. Let it stretch a bit and slowly raise untill practically on the balls of your feet and flex near the point of cramping. It is not all genetics. I also beleive that really good stretching will help.

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    thankx gusy yea hahah i never work out my calves but i want to real bad now for the summer how long do u think itll take to see soem major reults and should i workd em out 1 or 2 times a week?
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    Twice max. As long as you eat and rest properly, you should see gains in a month. How much of a gain? Depends on you.
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    Try Seated Calf Raise..It works the lower part of the calves

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    Pic a calf exercise... Find a wieght you can usually do 20 reps of. THEN... Do 75 straight. Whenever it burns tooooo much, drop it, and as soon as the burns gone, do it again until the # is reached.

    Sprints help also! Good luck. I found that advice off here a while back, and it's done wonders and only takes like 4 minutes.

    I started off on the 45 degree squat machine to do calf raises... With 3 plates on each side. Try that to start with if you can
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete_Sebastiano
    Try Seated Calf Raise..It works the lower part of the calves
    No, it works the part of the calves (soleus) that sit behind the gastrocnemius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas
    Find a wieght you can usually do 20 reps of. THEN... Do 75 straight. Whenever it burns tooooo much, drop it, and as soon as the burns gone, do it again until the # is reached.
    I've done exactly the same thing a few weeks ago, except that I used a weight I could do 15 reps. The following day my calves were ok, but I had trouble walking the 2 days following that one!

    I will do more experimentation on calves grow this summer :alcoholic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas
    Pic a calf exercise... Find a wieght you can usually do 20 reps of. THEN... Do 75 straight. Whenever it burns tooooo much, drop it, and as soon as the burns gone, do it again until the # is reached.

    Sprints help also! Good luck. I found that advice off here a while back, and it's done wonders and only takes like 4 minutes.

    I started off on the 45 degree squat machine to do calf raises... With 3 plates on each side. Try that to start with if you can
    yea i do somehting similar to that yea my calves are at this very moment 15.5 inches and 15inches i want to get them up to at least 16.5 or 17 also are u sure the long calves is genetic cause i hate having BUTT calves sux man looks ugly id rather had teh long outside calve muscle regardless if i can jump higher or not hahahah
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