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    Iraq...again

    To beat a dead horse, why are we there?

    Just read about the new US deaths, and I got to asking myself this question again. Still haven't found a good answer as of yet. I know the media only shows the ugly side of this whole occupation, but still, soldiers are dying and it seems to be getting uglier.
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    Oil. US interests follow the money, and there's big money in oil. History is very clear on this.

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    ditto to SF--follow the $

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturday Fever
    Oil. US interests follow the money, and there's big money in oil. History is very clear on this.
    Not to mention war in general is big business for large coprs. In ways other than oil.

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    Halliburton needed more revenue?
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    Halliburton always needs more revenue. Revenue = Power. And like wise, More Revenue = More Power.

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    hey i made you sig! cool.


    and you're right. hell they already have a man in the white house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturday Fever
    Oil. US interests follow the money, and there's big money in oil. History is very clear on this.
    Well when this whole mess started, that's the first thought that popped into my head. It just made sense. I tried to keep an open mind about other options, but none of them made any sense.

    I guess maybe oil production is the key. However, as long as OPEC still has control, it doesn't matter if we are there or not. BTW, OPEC is going to cut production this summer so I guess the military better get ready to invade Kuwait or Saudi Aribia.
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    The US has openly called the UN a useless entity, why do you think we will adhere to OPEC if it doesn't serve our monetary needs? The US ego is massive these days. Oh, and controlled by oil barrens.

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    the UN is a sham

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    Iraq currently doesn't participate with OPEC.
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    Well it's pretty obvious that the US is trying hard to install a US friendly governing body in Iraq, but how much is that going to impact oil production? I guess we'll find out this summer.
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    Seeing they are sitting on one of the largest or the largest oil reserves in the world.... not alot until things get set up properly.
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    Prices are not dictated by production. It's a supply and demand market folks. If people will pay $2.21 a gallon or more, that's the price. If they're willing to pay $3.10, that's the price.

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    Except that prices are dictated almost entirely by production when it comes to oil...

    OPEC is a cartel controlling the majority of the oil supply and they fix supply to set prices that they want. It's hardly a free market.

    Total demand is relatively constant year to year, or at least it follows predictable patterns.

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    In about 50 years when oil becomes scarce there are going to be a lot more oil wars. And you can't fight an oil war without oil so its good to secure that oil now. Then when other countries come knocking on our door for oil we just choke off their supply until they run out of gas and its gameover for them. We will still be driving our huge, gas guzzling SUVs while the rest of the world has to ride around on horses and bikes like jerks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturday Fever
    Prices are not dictated by production. It's a supply and demand market folks. If people will pay $2.21 a gallon or more, that's the price. If they're willing to pay $3.10, that's the price.
    LOL. Yeah it is a supply/demand market... it is a commodity. That is WHY the price is dictated by production. If there is less oil people will pay more for the same amount. Price is proportional to demand and inversly proportional to supply. As been demonstrated many times OPEC controls the supply end of the equation. But even they agree that they can not push prices through the roof. There is an OPEC agrees there is an optimal oil price for the economy to flourish. They just try to push the envelope a little to fatten their pockets more. OPEC controls something like 75% of the worlds oil supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -sin-
    In about 50 years when oil becomes scarce there are going to be a lot more oil wars. And you can't fight an oil war without oil so its good to secure that oil now. Then when other countries come knocking on our door for oil we just choke off their supply until they run out of gas and its gameover for them. We will still be driving our huge, gas guzzling SUVs while the rest of the world has to ride around on horses and bikes like jerks.
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    Controls? When was the last time anyone but America controlled America? Look past the smoke and mirrors folks.

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    You've never heard of the 70's then, eh?

    Oil crisis, rationing, lines at the gas station, super inflation?

    OPEC put a serious smack down on the U.S. They walked a very thin line, succesfully mind you, because we seriously considered invading the Arabian peninsula.

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    You think they'd ever be able to do that again?


    Exactly. The minute they even thought of it, they'd be bombed so hard and their country taken over so fast they wouldn't know what happened. That would have happened in the 70s if we didn't wonder about the Soviets.

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    SF, how much money would the US gain by controlling all of the oil in Iraq?

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    Why dwell on it? We are already there, so might as well support the troops. I would like to see them home, but they are already over seas.

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