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    Big Swinging Dick dxiw's Avatar
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    rotator cuff?

    hey, I just had a question about rotator cuff injuries / training

    i normally do flat bench and never have any pain - but today when i was doing some inclines i felt a sharp pain in my right shoulder for the last 2 reps from about halfway up to the full rep. I did a rotator cuff exercise and realized it was my rotator that was hurting. Should I train my rotators with a cable from now on with every bench workout? and what do i do now? my next bench workout is in a week and while my rotator isnt torn or anything it might be a little damaged or stressed because of the pain i got on the inclines (new range of motion for the rotators)..

    225lb @ 17% bodyfat, currently cutting
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    Estimated current maxes: 300 bench / 450 dead / 450 squat
    Competition / Gym PRs (from March 08)
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    Deadlift: 450 raw ADFPF 04/26/08
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    ok its been one day and the pain is mostly gone - if i stress the rotator i feel a little bit of discomfort but the pain is all gone

    225lb @ 17% bodyfat, currently cutting
    Current lifts while cutting (all raw): bench 275x4, squat 365x8
    Estimated current maxes: 300 bench / 450 dead / 450 squat
    Competition / Gym PRs (from March 08)
    Bench: 325 raw / 385 loose shirt
    Deadlift: 450 raw ADFPF 04/26/08
    Squat: 405 raw

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    I had the same problem a few weeks ago, started having some pain in the back of my shoulder and then realized I had not worked my RC in months. I now do it once a week with shoulders, took it easy on bench a few weeks and last night hit a new PR with no shoulder pain
    Age: 22
    Weight: 190
    Bench: 255x1
    Squat: 225x8 (still working up to 1rm)
    Dead: 335x1

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    work out your rotator cuffs on chest and shoulder days, before you lift.

    Stats: Age: 34 Weight: 205 Height: 5'6"
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    Meet PRs: Squat:575 Bench:525 Deadlift:510 Total: 1605@220

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    As drew said, work it out before chest and shoulder days. I injured my RC a few years ago and if I work it out for about 10 minutes or so before my chest/shoulder workout then it barely bothers me, but if I don't, I get a lot of pain sometimes in my left RC by doing heavy bench press.

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    As I stated in my article this month, don't side step the issue, seek out the problem and solve it.

    Training your rotators first in a work out is not a good idea. The rotators are primarilly used as stabilizers in most movements. That's like training yours abs before squatting.

    It's illogical.

    What you need to do is find out which rotator cuff muscle you strained. There are a series of range of motion tests you can do, however trying to explain them here is next to impossible. Your problem is most likely the result of a weakened muscle due to an imbalance and it's finally coming out in the form of a strain. Next time it won't be a strain, it will be worse.
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    I don't work my rotator cuff. I don't have any injury but I think I'm gunna start. Should I just do it during my warm up? Like right after stretching? or maybe as Maki Riddington suggest at the end of my work outs? Maybe 3 times a week? I've been thinking a lot about injury prevention lately.

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    I've had a rotator cuff injury for 8 weeks now, which sux really because my bench press isnt improving at all. I've been to the doc, and he suggest stretches, ice and rest etc. I've been doing all those, plus specific rotator cuff exercises. In addition, I took a week off on two separate occasions, but the pain is still there and i cant do certain movements .. is there anything else i can do? or am i doomed to be like this forever? :-(
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    DL: 185x5
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