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    shoulder presses

    whats a good weight for dumbell shoulder pressses?? right now i'm at 70lbs w/5 reps.

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    70lbs for reps is an impressive weight, if that's what you're asking. Just use enough weight to give you good sets with proper form.

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    as long as u have proper form.. go as heavy as you can... the problem with getting stronger and going heavier..is that it gets more and more difficult to raise the heavier weight to ur starting position.. and then its even harder from ur starting position to ur finishing position on ur first rep....

    70lbs for 5 is good... is the 5 too easy? i believe that if you can rep out more than 12 then that should be considered a warmup... at least on days that you're supposed to go heavy...

    when i do db shoulder press i warm up with 80,85, and 90. and then hit 100x10 105x8 and 110x6

    as i said.. the hardest part is getting the weight from ur knees to starting position..

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    I throw the dumbells up before i sit down. I do a warmup with 55's, then a set with 80's, then a set with 80's and a drop down to 45's RIGHT after i put hte 80's down, it burns SOOOO good. Also, make sure you are going your full range of motion, like, I can go much deeper with them than my friend can.
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    i do 'em arnold press style. i kick 'em up parallel to my shoulders w/ my palms facing each other and rotate out on the way up. makes it a lot harder. and on the way down i rotate back in, palms facing each other, allowing for me to go deeper into my negative. i'll go 3 sets of 8, 75, 80,85. its tough, but having someone to help get to the starting position makes the exercise. w/ out that i drop 10lbs. easy.

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    getting db's over 85 up off my knees for me is very difficult, I got wrist problems from kicking 'em up and settling them in...
    I could probably do 100 for 3 sets of 10 but I'd destroy my wrists...
    this is why they have cages at most gyms for bb military.

    I HIGHLY recommend you save your wrists and use these cages or if ya have a partner you don't even need a cage...or just use a machine....good luck
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    workout parterns are key for lifting heavy weights. don't hurt yourself...its not worth it!

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    I was using the 250's for 10 sets of 25 reps .......................just kidding.


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    omg, you people are machines. I do 10x with 50 lbs and 8x with 55, but im 17, maybe the age makes a difference. I was wondering if i did military presses followed by dumbbell presses will result in overtraining. For my shoulders, i normally do: military or dumbbell , lateral raises and front raises.

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    yeah really i can only do like 50's lol
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    no thats not overtraining.. thats actually ideal that you do that...

    if you use correct form on the dumbbells...you are actually hittng medial heads more than anterior...military isoliate anterior and upper chest (if you go down too low)..anything below your chin on military and you're putting your chest into it... so i just go to chin level...

    as for db shoulder press.. those hit medial.. after that i normally go to side raises that hit medial again then front raises that hit anterior again.. then bent over side raises or reverse flies.. that hit posterior delts...

    and if you're intensity is high enough you shouldnt be able to hold ur arms up for more than 5 seconds at a time. good luck
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    damn you guys are strong mofo's

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    no.. im not strong until i can shoulder press the 150's at golds gym....

    then yes.. i will be strong.. but until then i am a puny weakling...

    my next bulk cycle goal is to be able to rep the 125's for 8...

    im currently repping 105's for 8 and im cutting...so...

    i'll keep my fingers crossed
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    Quote Originally Posted by blkwrx02
    i do 'em arnold press style. i kick 'em up parallel to my shoulders w/ my palms facing each other and rotate out on the way up. makes it a lot harder. and on the way down i rotate back in, palms facing each other, allowing for me to go deeper into my negative.
    That sounds like a good thing to do since I imagine that you'ld hit more muscle fibers that way...
    Last edited by Deathwish; 04-11-2004 at 11:02 PM.

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    arnold presses are certainly MUCH harder.. but i like to pre-exhaust first by doing either military or dumbell shoulder or both first...

    then hit the arnold and make it so u cant feel ur arms..
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleJake
    i like to pre-exhaust first by doing either military or dumbell shoulder or both first...

    then hit the arnold and make it so u cant feel ur arms..
    what are you pre-exhausting here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffgarcia
    what are you pre-exhausting here?
    Exactly...???

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    I'm 5'11 168 and I'm doing 55's or 60's. When I was 175 I was doing 3 sets with 60's but thats the highest I've gotten.

    Shoulder presses make me tired as hell.
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    I just started doing these. I can do 50lbs X 4 so far. On the barbell I can do 135lbs X 7 though, I guess I need to do them more heh, I'm expecting/hoping for rapid progress on this exercise.

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    at one point i was doing the monstrous 140s for 4. I haven't done shoulder presses in over a year though, so I can probably only do the 110s or 120s now. but, i'm not really allowed to do that much weight anymore b/c of my screwed up back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supirman
    at one point i was doing the monstrous 140s for 4. I haven't done shoulder presses in over a year though, so I can probably only do the 110s or 120s now. but, i'm not really allowed to do that much weight anymore b/c of my screwed up back.
    didn't you ever have wrist problems with that kinda weight?
    I mean popping them up and stabilizing them is rough enough with a weight you can do for sets of 10, but for sets of 4 I'd imagine its a nightmare! whew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffgarcia
    didn't you ever have wrist problems with that kinda weight?
    I mean popping them up and stabilizing them is rough enough with a weight you can do for sets of 10, but for sets of 4 I'd imagine its a nightmare! whew!
    ooh,i forgot to mention that i had 2 spotters lift the weight. Anything over 110 is out of my ability to 'kick it up'. I had one person lift a weight up to my shoulder on each side, then I had one of them stand behind me to spot. My wrists never did hurt, I'd imagine they grew accustomed to that kind of stress through heavy benching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supirman
    ooh,i forgot to mention that i had 2 spotters lift the weight. Anything over 110 is out of my ability to 'kick it up'. I had one person lift a weight up to my shoulder on each side, then I had one of them stand behind me to spot. My wrists never did hurt, I'd imagine they grew accustomed to that kind of stress through heavy benching.
    why not just use a bb?

    its tough as balls spotting someone under the elbows on heavy db's...
    heaven forbid that arms starts going back...ugh! what a nightmare! I hate when people I spot do that and toss the db's down by my feet!

    plus how do you put that kinda weight down?

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    I did do barbells also. There is this little thing I like to do... I call it "switching it up" I actually have more shoulder problems with the barbell and so I tend to shy away from it.

    I put the dbs down to my knees first, then I drop them on the floor in front of me. And I don't do weight that I can't handle... so I've never droppped the weights on anybody.
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