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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    what a bodybuilder eats...

    a lot of people are asking how to eat, and when I first joined this place, that was pretty much my main question as well.

    Someone posted a list and I printed it and it is still on the inside of my kitchen cabinet door, thought I would post an edited version for the next new guy


    1-2 Gallons of Water a day

    Protein

    Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast
    Tuna (water packed)
    Fish (salmon, seabass, halibut, sushi, mahi mahi, Orange roughi, tilapia, Sardines)
    Shrimp
    Extra Lean Ground Beef or Ground Round (92-96%)
    Venison
    Buffalo
    Ostrich
    Protein Powder (Whey, Casein, Soy, Egg)
    Eggs
    Low or Non-Fat Cottage cheese, Ricotta
    Low fat or Non fat Yogurt
    Ribeye Steaks or Roast
    Top Round Steaks or Roast (stew meat, London broil, Stir fry)
    Top Sirloin (Sirloin Top Butt)
    Beef Tenderloin (filet mignon)
    Top Loin (NY Strip Steak)
    Flank Steak (Stir Fry, Fajitas)
    Eye of Round (Cube meat, Stew meat, Bottom Round)
    Ground Turkey, Turkey Breast slices or cutlets (*no deli or sandwich meats)

    Complex Carbs (nothing enriched, bleached or processed if possible)

    Oatmeal (Old fashioned, Quick oats, Irish steal cut)
    Sweet Potatoes, Yams
    Beans (Black eyed, Pinto, Red, Kidney, Black)
    Oat Bran Cereal, Grape nuts, Rye cereal, Multi grain hot cereal
    Farin (Cream of wheat)
    Whole Wheat frozen Bagels, Pitas
    Whole wheat or Spinach Pasta, Whey Pasta
    Rice (Brown, white, jasmin, basmiti, arborio, wild)
    Potatoes (red, white, baking)

    Fibrous Carbs

    Green Leafy lettuce (red, green, romaine)
    Broccoli
    Asparagus
    String Beans
    Spinach
    Bell Pepers (Green or Red)
    Brussels Sprouts
    Cauliflower
    Cabbage
    Celery
    Cucumber
    Carrots
    Eggplant
    Onions
    Pumpkin
    Garlic
    Tomatoes
    Zucchini

    Fruit (If acceptable on diet)
    bananas, oranges, apples, grapefruit, peaches, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, lemons or limes

    Healthy Fats

    Natural Style Peanut Butter
    Olive oil, Safflower oil
    Flaxseed oil
    Fish Oil
    Nuts (peanuts, almonds, walnuts)

    Dairy

    Eggs
    Low of Non-Fat cottage cheese, Ricotta
    Low or non-fat milk
    Low fat or non-fat yogurt

    Condiments & Spices

    Diet Soda
    Crystal light
    Fat free mayonaise
    Reduced sodium Soy Sauce
    Reduced sodium Teriyaki Sauce
    balsamic Vinegar
    Salsa, Jalepenos
    Hot peppers and Hot sauce, Cayanne pepper
    Chili powder and Chili paste
    Mrs. Dash
    Steak Sauce
    Sugar free Maple Syrup
    Mustard
    Extracts (vanilla, almond, etc)
    Low sodium beef or chicken Broth
    Plain or reduced sodium tomatoe sauce or paste

    For calories in each food go to http://www.fitday.com

    Calorie Counting Formulas:
    Mesomorphs: bodyweight x 15
    Ectomorphs: bodyweight x 16-17
    Endomorphs: bodyweight x 13-14

    To start a cut: subtract 500 from total calories, to maintain cut: subtract 200-300 from total calories depending on weight lost each week. If this the first time you are cutting, I would recommend reading the short article posted by St.P. (see attachment below)

    To start a bulk: add 500 to total calories, to maintain bulk: add 200-300 to total calories depending on weight gained each week

    here is an e-book to how to cook like a bodybuilder from strengthcats.com Body Building Recipes

    Here is a great article from AtLarge Nutrition on Training and Eating for Mass. Be sure to spend a little time and also read the other articles on this board for nutrition and training!

    -Booyah Baby!
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    30MAY03 = 800 Total - Bench 230, Squat 245, Deadlift 325
    22OCT04 = 960 Total - Bench 275, Squat 305, Deadlift 380

    Most push-ups in one minute = 102 (BW:195lbs)

    Some men see things as they are and say, "Why?" I dream things that never were and say, "Why not?" - George B. Shaw

    FOOD is my drug of choice

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    sticky!

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    the whole grocery list thread should be a sticky. good stuff.

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    yes I second sticky.... I saw it before and I lost it ... this is good stuff

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    Why is Bottled Water listed under "Dairy and Eggs"
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    haha didnt notice that! just get a water filter or brita no need to "buy" water in the first place.

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    Good list. I sticky for now.
    Deadlifts are like women, they'll hurt you everytime, but they'll also make you a man. - Me

    Friends don't let friends do dumbell kickbacks. - Me

    ElP is the smartest man in the world. - Gyno Rhino

    A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls. -- Dan Quayle

    If do right, no can defense. -- Mr. Miyagi

    Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey:

    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

    Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

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    Oh and what would be good would be to continue building this list, adding the food items in the appropriate categories and maintain one master list. Kenn, you have officially been voluntold.
    Last edited by ElPietro; 04-23-2004 at 01:45 PM.
    Deadlifts are like women, they'll hurt you everytime, but they'll also make you a man. - Me

    Friends don't let friends do dumbell kickbacks. - Me

    ElP is the smartest man in the world. - Gyno Rhino

    A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls. -- Dan Quayle

    If do right, no can defense. -- Mr. Miyagi

    Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey:

    I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

    Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak, and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his feet. And also, you're drunk.

    Current FFFA Enforcer

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    heh, not a problem. We SHOULD have a master grocery list, good idea. So, if anyone eats something not on the list, go for it!

    I dont know why water is in dairy I just copied it as I saw it a long time ago......

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    I did not see Whole Wheat Bread on the list, add that if you think it's worthy hehe. I find this useful as it's easy to make, and it's easy to eat on the go, like for lunch etc.

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    definately sticky material, just needs a couple of edits.

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    edited to include everything I could think of...........

    I also included the standard formulas for cutting/bulking, any more ideas or foods to be listed, post away and I will get them in there
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    30MAY03 = 800 Total - Bench 230, Squat 245, Deadlift 325
    22OCT04 = 960 Total - Bench 275, Squat 305, Deadlift 380

    Most push-ups in one minute = 102 (BW:195lbs)

    Some men see things as they are and say, "Why?" I dream things that never were and say, "Why not?" - George B. Shaw

    FOOD is my drug of choice

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    i always thought of cutting and bulking as 12*BW for cutting, 15*bw for maintenance, and 18*bw for bulking. but then again i never factored in body types, so your way is probably more accurate. this thread is gonna be the stick of all stickies in time...

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    Most of this list has alreadey been included, but you can recheck it if you like. I will try later when I have more time.

    Another thread with food suggestions
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    Don't forget soy milk.

    1/4 of my daily protein intake comes from soy milk or other soy protein, due to me being mildly lactose intolerant. I'm sure there are other people like me out there.

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    Thanks guys, this is great!

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    hi i was born with a disease called hemihypertrophy where my left side of my body is smaller than the right side in the biceps its by about and inch and a half or two is there any way or good way to fix this please help it makes me very self concsious itys only the biceps i want to fix for now please email me with any answers mnmmoore16_122@msn.com thnx so much metteo

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    hey bro, best advice it work with your doctor on this and focus on keeping the side affected with hemihypertophy from advancing too fast.

    you could work the side not affected to try and even it out, but we would need to know about you and with such a rare disease, working with your doctor is best. Good luck man, start a journal and tell us more about yourself and how you plan to work out.
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    1RM's
    30MAY03 = 800 Total - Bench 230, Squat 245, Deadlift 325
    22OCT04 = 960 Total - Bench 275, Squat 305, Deadlift 380

    Most push-ups in one minute = 102 (BW:195lbs)

    Some men see things as they are and say, "Why?" I dream things that never were and say, "Why not?" - George B. Shaw

    FOOD is my drug of choice

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    Turkey breast slices (no deli turkey)==???
    Damn, i enjoy making my lunch sandwiches from the deli. I eat either bologna, turkey, and ham with wheat bread 24@7.
    What do i take to lunch? Back to tuna sandwiches, i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYRO
    Turkey breast slices (no deli turkey)==???
    Damn, i enjoy making my lunch sandwiches from the deli. I eat either bologna, turkey, and ham with wheat bread 24@7.
    What do i take to lunch? Back to tuna sandwiches, i guess.
    by deli I think it meant pre-packaged sandwich slices of ham/turkey (which are mostly salt and water)
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    1RM's
    30MAY03 = 800 Total - Bench 230, Squat 245, Deadlift 325
    22OCT04 = 960 Total - Bench 275, Squat 305, Deadlift 380

    Most push-ups in one minute = 102 (BW:195lbs)

    Some men see things as they are and say, "Why?" I dream things that never were and say, "Why not?" - George B. Shaw

    FOOD is my drug of choice

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    prepackaged meaning a few slices wrapped in plastic on the shelves? i just got some smoked turkey breast over the counter today and i'm not sure whether it counts as from the deli? it was sliced from a huge hunk. any suggestions on where to get alright turkey breasts then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissipate
    prepackaged meaning a few slices wrapped in plastic on the shelves? i just got some smoked turkey breast over the counter today and i'm not sure whether it counts as from the deli? it was sliced from a huge hunk. any suggestions on where to get alright turkey breasts then?

    sliced from a huge hunk? If it came off the real turkey then it should be fine...if it was a hunk of processed turkey (like those canned hams or turkeys) then I would not make a habit of eating it.
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    1RM's
    30MAY03 = 800 Total - Bench 230, Squat 245, Deadlift 325
    22OCT04 = 960 Total - Bench 275, Squat 305, Deadlift 380

    Most push-ups in one minute = 102 (BW:195lbs)

    Some men see things as they are and say, "Why?" I dream things that never were and say, "Why not?" - George B. Shaw

    FOOD is my drug of choice

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    uh oh, i think i've been eating deli turkey then. i can't find any real turkey breast in the supermarkets around here!!! guess i'll have to take chicken breast then.

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    Eat yourself some steamed blue crabs and thats an excellent source of protein. I live in Maryland and we eat em all the time.

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    thanks for posting the list man i have been to three different bb sites and found nothing.

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