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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    strength of gorillas

    just an interesting fact i learned, that gorillas are extremly strong. i went to the zoo the other day, and they just built this $25-30 million gorilla valley. it says that a full-grown 350-400 lb silverback male gorillas have arm strength greater than that of the world's strongest man. and i wouldnt doubt it either. the thing that just amazes me the most about gorillas, is how similar they are to us. yet they are sooooo much stronger.
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    Yeah? But who's got the mobile (oposible sp?) thumb?? HUH!!!
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    they have opposible thumbs and big toes.
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    -Look..first I am scared little freezing virgin munk, but then I bare my self and I am nothing like a freezing virgin!
    -Then I saw a little african boy sleeping, and I thought...that is little Okeke, he is tired from herding all the goats and the big goat got away today.
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    They do not have opposable thumbs (a gorilla cannot touch the tip of its thumb to the tip of its pinkie. etc). I remember reading somewhere that most mammals are 4-7 times stronger than humans for their size/weight. Physically, we humans are pathetic, if it wasn't for our big beautiful brains, we'd still be fairly far down on the food chain.
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    i always wanted to see a fight between Ahnold(when he was really huge) and a gorilla.

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    No offense to Arnold, but the Gorilla would easily win. First of all, Gorilla have fighting Canines (that's big pointy teeth, for those that don't habla). Second, they are much stronger (not to mention, faster) than we are. Anybody see that lame show on fox "Man vs. Animals" or something. A 120-lb Orangutan pulled a 350-lb sumo wrestler off his feet in a tug-of-war. Not to make this a Superman-vs-Mighty Mouse-vs-Alien-vs-Predator type of thing.
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    Silverback Gorillas would absolutely own us, and then they would eat their poop.
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    My roommate learned in his anthro class that even orangutans can tear off of a person's arm fairly easily... think of how strong a gorilla must be.

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    I wonder if our comparative weakness to other mammals was always the case, or has simply evolved (devolved?) over the last few thousands of years as our technology has afforded us with other advantages/comforts.
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    thats a good point, like maybe we were uber-strong thousands of years ago?

    sorry about the opposable thumb thing, i though it meant you could pick stuff up. which gorillas can. there thumb is just a lot lot shorter.
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    -Look..first I am scared little freezing virgin munk, but then I bare my self and I am nothing like a freezing virgin!
    -Then I saw a little african boy sleeping, and I thought...that is little Okeke, he is tired from herding all the goats and the big goat got away today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggimp
    just an interesting fact i learned, that gorillas are extremly strong.
    what hole have you been living in all this time?
    I thought this was common knowledge that we all learned at age 4...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimlynch11
    I wonder if our comparative weakness to other mammals was always the case, or has simply evolved (devolved?) over the last few thousands of years as our technology has afforded us with other advantages/comforts.
    it's often referred to as reductive evolution. you lose what you don't need. Being that much bigger and stronger is not necessarily an evolutionary advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimlynch11
    I wonder if our comparative weakness to other mammals was always the case, or has simply evolved (devolved?) over the last few thousands of years as our technology has afforded us with other advantages/comforts.
    I have heard soem theories suggest we evolved from them
    This seems like the cool thing to do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ectx
    it's often referred to as reductive evolution. you lose what you don't need. Being that much bigger and stronger is not necessarily an evolutionary advantage.
    But now we live in a world where, by average, big strong men get all the ladies. Aren't big guys reproducing more than skinny guys? Shouldn't we be evolving to get stronger now?

    I guess we are sabotaging by having rich men get the women too and by having so much sex without reproducing. When checking out what kind of guy actually gets 10+ kids, its usually a dumb, rural, ugly, poor ****er who beats his baby popping wife.

    We really are evolving backwards.
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    I saw a female chimp lateral front raise her own bodyweight with a single arm, just to get to some food that was under this box.
    Aint a human in the world that can lateral raise his own BW with both arms...
    and this chimp lady was obviously not even trying all that damn hard

    There's one of these faces of death videos where a zoo tourist is ripped literally in half by a pissed off silverback. = these apes aren't kidding.

    What's more interesting is how this works biologically. How come our muscles are so inefficient? and how come gorillas have so much muscle while their diet would make any human into a skinny hippie with oedema
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    Silverback male gorillas dont just have arm-strength stronger than the worlds greatest man, 1 silverback would clean up Arnie, Svend, Samuelson, Stallone, Ferrigno, Bruce Lee, Van Damme, 3 NFL players of your choice and still have time to get some female gorilla ass before going back to his patch of leaves and eating some flowers.

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    Well yeah that's true. but I just find it amazing. How is it possible biologically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinier
    What's more interesting is how this works biologically. How come our muscles are so inefficient? and how come gorillas have so much muscle while their diet would make any human into a skinny hippie with oedema
    Their stomachs can digest and extract the protein from grass, flowers etc. Our digestion system isnt all that hot really

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    I'd say they also have tighter packed muscle fibres. Obviously packed even tighter than the strongest strength trainers. I'd say a lot of it would be brain power, or lack therof as well. A 120lbs junky with a fried brain can sometimes be as strong as a 300lbs police officer.

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    I read the reason for this a while back, if I remember correctly. It has to do with recruitment and mechanical advantage. They have much higher recruitment rates than we do. Also notice that they don't really do much of anything endurance-based. This would support that.

    As someone said, other mammals are much stronger, pound for pound, as well. Think of dogs. Most dogs are smaller than humans, but much stronger. Case in point: Me = fairly strong, 240 pound grappler v Mercedes, my mother's 55 pound shar-pei, and it came to toenail clipping time. It was a battle.
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    They are compensating for having tiny schlongs!! Hahhaahahaha







    humans have unproportionally large schlongs (compared to most mammals) cos thats what human chicks were attracted to

    Gorilla chicks go for muscles, hence beefness/lack of sausageness





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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrulez
    humans have unproportionally large schlongs (compared to most mammals) cos thats what human chicks were attracted to
    I guess I'm not human, then.

    I must be a gorilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinier
    But now we live in a world where, by average, big strong men get all the ladies. Aren't big guys reproducing more than skinny guys? Shouldn't we be evolving to get stronger now?

    I guess we are sabotaging by having rich men get the women too and by having so much sex without reproducing. When checking out what kind of guy actually gets 10+ kids, its usually a dumb, rural, ugly, poor ****er who beats his baby popping wife.

    We really are evolving backwards.
    Size and strength aer two different things. That's not my point though. The amount of strength is rediculously unnecessary and taxing for us. Sure, evolution may favor us looking like and being as strong as Arnold, but that's still way way short of king kong strong. Also, if I recall correctly several studies show women prefer the moderately athletic to the freakishly huge and ripped look, so maybe there's your answer.
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