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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Is it just me, or are back and shoulder exercises the same?

    I still have to look on websites to see what exercises to do for different muscle groups. Both routines for shoulders and back look the same.
    Last edited by J_weik; 06-10-2004 at 12:46 PM.

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    what part of the back?
    I don't think shrugs do much for your shoulders.
    Upright rows do work your side/rear delts
    spinal erector work has almost no impact.
    your lat movements rows/pullups have some shoulder interaction

    I think chest pressing movements interact with your shoulder about as much.

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    I did this on tuesday. would this be back or shoulders?

    Bent over row: 120x8, 130x8, 170x6
    Supine row: 3x8
    Shrug: 190x6, 140x8, 140x8, 120x8
    Pull ups, 1x3, 70lb help x 5, 70lb help x5
    Db Raises: 25/25x6, 25/25x6, 25/25x6
    Arnold press; 15x8, 15x8
    Military press: 30x5, 25x5

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    That's back up to Pullups, then shoulders with the rest.

    People wonder why I call myself Mr. T. One dude asked, 'does the T stand for tough?' I said no. Another dude asked if the T stands for my last name, Tureaud. No it does not. The 'T' in Mr. T stands for tuna. T loves tuna.

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    lol its both.

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    Yeah both!!!
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    lol oh well. I'll just do both on tuesday and thursday. Since i'm not doing too much on both groups, i don't think it would hurt.

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    I'd lower your rep ranges on these to under 12 assuming ur goal is muscle growth

    Db Raises: 25/25x6, 25/25x6, 25/25x6
    Arnold press; 15x8, 15x8
    Military press: 30x5, 25x5

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    rule of thumb:

    pulling something towards your chest from most angles = back

    and

    most movements where your upper arms move above shoulder height = shoulders

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    I think you're confused.

    When people say "back" they're usually refrring to the lats or the spinal erectors. But sometimes people lump their traps in with the back.

    When people say "shoulders" they're usually referring to the delts. But sometimes people lump their traps in with the shoulders.

    This is most likely where your confusion has come from.
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    I've always counted just the rear delts as a muscle to do on back day, because it is a pulling muscle. The side and front delts I do on chest day. Then again, I'm a
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