how much of a dream is this and how much of reality is this? i started serious lifting 3.5 months ago benchin only 95, yes pathetic but im cool with it, and now i am at 185 and i want to set a goal of 255 by the end of summer. do you think with the pace a went from 95->185 gonna help me get to 255 by end of summer? any input is appreciated.
wow that really is a lot of weight in short amount of time. i would never be able to do that but i heard you gain 15 pounds of muscle in two months if you use steroids. so i guess it is possible...
no chance, you could get there, but most of it would be fat.
i think he was talking about benching hehehOriginally Posted by GRIFF
There is only one way to find out if you gan go from benching 185 to 255 by the end of the summer.
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i dont plan on goin to steroids. so what do you think a good goal is to get to by the end of the summer? i just need somethin to shoot for and since ive beasically just started i dont have anough knowledge to gauge where i should be.
haha I know, i was bein a dink
oh i def shall.Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
i thought so but i wasnt to sure. its all good though.Originally Posted by GRIFF
Maybe if you're doing 4 GRAMS of juice a week, but then you'd probably lose a few pounds also when you **** out your liver.Originally Posted by T_Chapman
Yeah ...you are absolutely right....So get that out of the way and crap out your liver first...then get to lifting..I don't know if you keep a journal that you take with you into te gym but if you really want it ..keep a journal
That way you have a written record of what you lifted every session and you can add
at least 2.5 lbs everytime....that is the only way is to keep progressively overloading your muscles..You got your newbie gains out of the way...the rest will be a more difficult task to keep progressing...
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It shouldn't be that hard, I did it in less time I think. Just eat a lot and don't worry about fat gain
I think you will be hard-pressed to add that much in a few months, but you may as well aim high. Good luck
70lbs on your bench in lets call it 2 months. Well, lets say you bench 2 times a week. That would mean you would bench approx. 16 times before your goal has to be met. That's roughly a 4-5lb increase every time you get on the bench. To be honest, it would be extremely hard to add 8-10lbs to your bench a week, consistently for months at a time. If it were that easy, everyone would be benching 300lbs in no time. What are your long term goals? Do you want to bodybuild, or powerlift. If you're more interested in building a nice body, don't be so concerned about what you bench in a certain amount of time.
Also, since most of your newbie gains are passing by, it's going to be harder to go from 185 to 255 than it was to get from 95 to 185.
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Well I'm trying to go from around 240 or 250 to 300 or so by the end of summer.
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How are your squats and rowing coming along?
yeah i started off gaining fast on everything but slowed down a couple months later. now progress is slower but still very enjoyable. blaindsmith: r u noticing slower gain? plus don't forget to change routines every 2-3 months
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thanks for the input guys. i would love to get to 255 but a more reasononable goal it seems would be 215 or 235 from what everyone has said.
i am goin for more of a powerlifter and gettin bigger. but not lettin the fat gain get out of hand where i end up with a big stomach. a good example of where i will want to end up someday is where Teufelhund is now.Originally Posted by HahnB
my squants are around 315 or more and im not sure about my row.Originally Posted by Scott S
just a little in my bench but as for other parts i am still increasing. i am finally getting some strength and stability to do more weight. i was thinkin of doin flat dumbbell press to mix things up a bit.Originally Posted by superior_will
I think its possible, if he does power sets, and power sets for supporting muscles, with the right nutrition and rest. If not i think he could definately come awfully close.
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i am soooo happy with myself. when i started this thread i only did 185 3.5 times. needed a little help on 4. but just yesturday i did it 6 times with just a slight spot. and i did that after doin 135x8 3 times for warmup and then 165x6 1 time for my first work set. i know i could bench more if i did warm up with that much weight but this routine has gotten me much stronger and bigger than when i started.
congratulations, keep it up!
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Name: Addison , Height: 6'0"
Weight: 173 lbs, Location: Toronto
Bodyfat: 8.4%, Age: 18
Bench: 205lb x 2
Squat: 275lb x 4
Deadlift: 305lb x 1
Chins: 20 pronated, 5 w/ 50lb db
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what routine are you using, how many times a week are you benching?
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Originally Posted by bodyOriginally Posted by kevinstarke
my routine is:
flat bench press 3x8 1x6 1x4
incline db press 1x8 1x6 1x4
cable flyes: 1x8 2x6
deadlift 3x8 1x6 1x4
bent over db rows 1x8 2x6
lat pulldowns 1x8 1x6 1x4
squats 3x8 1x6 1x4
leg extensions 1x8 2x6
calves 3x8 1x6 1x4
military press 3x8 1x6 1x4
seated db press 1x8 1x6 1x4
lateral raises 1x8 2x6
preacher curls 3x8 1x6 1x4
incline alt db curls 1x8 1x6 1x4
hammer curls 1x8 1x6 1x4
pressdowns 3x8 1x6 1x4
skull crushers 1x8 1x6 1x4
close grips 1x8 1x6 1x4
squats 3x8 1x6 1x4
leg extensions 1x8 2x6
sldl 3x8 1x6 1x4
calves 3x8 1x6 1x4
shrugs 3x8 1x6 1x4
Originally Posted by blaindsmith
That's a rather brutal routine. Your shoulders are directly and indirectly worked four days a week. You might be able to get to your goal, if your shoulders hold out. A few things though. Don't deadlift on the same day you bench. It would be better to put military press on that day. Cut back on the arm work. If your triceps get a lot of work, it is harder to get a big bench with tired triceps. I wouldn't squat twice a week. Once is plenty. Since you want a big bench save that energy for bench press.
Just my 2 cents