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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    185 to 255 by end of summer

    how much of a dream is this and how much of reality is this? i started serious lifting 3.5 months ago benchin only 95, yes pathetic but im cool with it, and now i am at 185 and i want to set a goal of 255 by the end of summer. do you think with the pace a went from 95->185 gonna help me get to 255 by end of summer? any input is appreciated.

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    wow that really is a lot of weight in short amount of time. i would never be able to do that but i heard you gain 15 pounds of muscle in two months if you use steroids. so i guess it is possible...

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    no chance, you could get there, but most of it would be fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRIFF
    no chance, you could get there, but most of it would be fat.
    i think he was talking about benching heheh

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    There is only one way to find out if you gan go from benching 185 to 255 by the end of the summer.

    Try it.
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    i dont plan on goin to steroids. so what do you think a good goal is to get to by the end of the summer? i just need somethin to shoot for and since ive beasically just started i dont have anough knowledge to gauge where i should be.

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    haha I know, i was bein a dink
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg
    There is only one way to find out if you gan go from benching 185 to 255 by the end of the summer.

    Try it.
    oh i def shall.

    Quote Originally Posted by GRIFF
    haha I know, i was bein a dink
    i thought so but i wasnt to sure. its all good though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Chapman
    wow that really is a lot of weight in short amount of time. i would never be able to do that but i heard you gain 15 pounds of muscle in two months if you use steroids. so i guess it is possible...
    Maybe if you're doing 4 GRAMS of juice a week, but then you'd probably lose a few pounds also when you **** out your liver.

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    Yeah ...you are absolutely right....So get that out of the way and crap out your liver first...then get to lifting..I don't know if you keep a journal that you take with you into te gym but if you really want it ..keep a journal

    That way you have a written record of what you lifted every session and you can add
    at least 2.5 lbs everytime....that is the only way is to keep progressively overloading your muscles..You got your newbie gains out of the way...the rest will be a more difficult task to keep progressing...
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    It shouldn't be that hard, I did it in less time I think. Just eat a lot and don't worry about fat gain

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    I think you will be hard-pressed to add that much in a few months, but you may as well aim high. Good luck

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    70lbs on your bench in lets call it 2 months. Well, lets say you bench 2 times a week. That would mean you would bench approx. 16 times before your goal has to be met. That's roughly a 4-5lb increase every time you get on the bench. To be honest, it would be extremely hard to add 8-10lbs to your bench a week, consistently for months at a time. If it were that easy, everyone would be benching 300lbs in no time. What are your long term goals? Do you want to bodybuild, or powerlift. If you're more interested in building a nice body, don't be so concerned about what you bench in a certain amount of time.

    Also, since most of your newbie gains are passing by, it's going to be harder to go from 185 to 255 than it was to get from 95 to 185.
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    Well I'm trying to go from around 240 or 250 to 300 or so by the end of summer.
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    How are your squats and rowing coming along?

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    yeah i started off gaining fast on everything but slowed down a couple months later. now progress is slower but still very enjoyable. blaindsmith: r u noticing slower gain? plus don't forget to change routines every 2-3 months
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRIFF
    haha I know, i was bein a dink
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    thanks for the input guys. i would love to get to 255 but a more reasononable goal it seems would be 215 or 235 from what everyone has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB
    What are your long term goals? Do you want to bodybuild, or powerlift.
    i am goin for more of a powerlifter and gettin bigger. but not lettin the fat gain get out of hand where i end up with a big stomach. a good example of where i will want to end up someday is where Teufelhund is now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott S
    How are your squats and rowing coming along?
    my squants are around 315 or more and im not sure about my row.

    Quote Originally Posted by superior_will
    r u noticing slower gain?
    just a little in my bench but as for other parts i am still increasing. i am finally getting some strength and stability to do more weight. i was thinkin of doin flat dumbbell press to mix things up a bit.

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    I think its possible, if he does power sets, and power sets for supporting muscles, with the right nutrition and rest. If not i think he could definately come awfully close.
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    i am soooo happy with myself. when i started this thread i only did 185 3.5 times. needed a little help on 4. but just yesturday i did it 6 times with just a slight spot. and i did that after doin 135x8 3 times for warmup and then 165x6 1 time for my first work set. i know i could bench more if i did warm up with that much weight but this routine has gotten me much stronger and bigger than when i started.

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    congratulations, keep it up!
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    funny how people don't read what he posts
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    what routine are you using, how many times a week are you benching?
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    my routine is:

    [sets]x[reps]

    day 1:
    flat bench press 3x8 1x6 1x4
    incline db press 1x8 1x6 1x4
    cable flyes: 1x8 2x6

    deadlift 3x8 1x6 1x4
    bent over db rows 1x8 2x6
    lat pulldowns 1x8 1x6 1x4

    day 2:
    squats 3x8 1x6 1x4
    leg extensions 1x8 2x6
    calves 3x8 1x6 1x4

    military press 3x8 1x6 1x4
    seated db press 1x8 1x6 1x4
    lateral raises 1x8 2x6

    day 3:
    preacher curls 3x8 1x6 1x4
    incline alt db curls 1x8 1x6 1x4
    hammer curls 1x8 1x6 1x4

    pressdowns 3x8 1x6 1x4
    skull crushers 1x8 1x6 1x4
    close grips 1x8 1x6 1x4

    day 4:
    squats 3x8 1x6 1x4
    leg extensions 1x8 2x6
    sldl 3x8 1x6 1x4
    calves 3x8 1x6 1x4

    shrugs 3x8 1x6 1x4

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaindsmith
    my routine is:

    [sets]x[reps]

    day 1:
    flat bench press 3x8 1x6 1x4
    incline db press 1x8 1x6 1x4
    cable flyes: 1x8 2x6

    deadlift 3x8 1x6 1x4
    bent over db rows 1x8 2x6
    lat pulldowns 1x8 1x6 1x4

    day 2:
    squats 3x8 1x6 1x4
    leg extensions 1x8 2x6
    calves 3x8 1x6 1x4

    military press 3x8 1x6 1x4
    seated db press 1x8 1x6 1x4
    lateral raises 1x8 2x6

    day 3:
    preacher curls 3x8 1x6 1x4
    incline alt db curls 1x8 1x6 1x4
    hammer curls 1x8 1x6 1x4

    pressdowns 3x8 1x6 1x4
    skull crushers 1x8 1x6 1x4
    close grips 1x8 1x6 1x4

    day 4:
    squats 3x8 1x6 1x4
    leg extensions 1x8 2x6
    sldl 3x8 1x6 1x4
    calves 3x8 1x6 1x4

    shrugs 3x8 1x6 1x4

    That's a rather brutal routine. Your shoulders are directly and indirectly worked four days a week. You might be able to get to your goal, if your shoulders hold out. A few things though. Don't deadlift on the same day you bench. It would be better to put military press on that day. Cut back on the arm work. If your triceps get a lot of work, it is harder to get a big bench with tired triceps. I wouldn't squat twice a week. Once is plenty. Since you want a big bench save that energy for bench press.

    Just my 2 cents

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