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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    whats the word on milk?

    Ok I've heard conflicting info.

    Is milk good or bad for post workout? Explain why or why not please.
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    It's good; drink it!

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    I've heard casein has a slow absorption rate. True or false?

    And does lactose give a quick or slow insulin spike?


    These are the things I'd like to know.
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    abs and a rock hard physique, little do they realize eventually we will reach
    our goal and they will be dreaming of the body we walk around with every
    day…only then will they understand." -- Severed Ties

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    From a thread on Dr. Squat

    My comments...

    "I think Doc considers a quart of low fat milk an almost perfect meal. It's ratio is about 30/45/25 (32g Protein/48g Carb/36g Fat
    assuming 1% milk). And since the carbs are mostly simple (lactose... milk sugar), you should get a nice insulin spike for
    post workout recovery and growth. "

    I was corrected by another poster...

    "Milk is great, but it won't give you an insulin spike because lactose is low glycemic."

    He is right... milk is listed at 34 on the glycemic index. So it won't give you an insulin spike. Take a high glycemic carb with the milk... like a banana (62 on the gi). Or raisins or cantaloupe.

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    its not the best for post exercise recovery meal as it has a low GI and slow acting protien especially if bulking. however its cheap and convienent.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    what body said...and the new guy too..bullrider billy...*grin*

    lactose is low GI, and casein is slow-release...so no...not ideal for post-workout.
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    Milk also contains whey, which is a fast absorbing protein.

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    Yes, but I believe it's only like 20% whey, which equates to 2g. per serving (or 4 or 5 per my servings heh), hardly worth mentioning

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    ok but say you mix a scoop of whey and some malto then you got imo a good spike
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    Don't you think you are picking every little food apart way too much? Or does the GI level of milk really make much difference for part of a post workout meal

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    Drink milk before the workout.

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    High GI food post workout is not a necessity.
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    Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
    High GI food post workout is not a necessity.
    well most people say meduim to high. but your cutting so differrent recommandations apply to bulking post work out.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    i love milk, does a body good, especially when bulking

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    I dunno I find it better for cutting than bulking. Milk seems to give me a longer energy burst than (dare I say) oatmeal or **** like that, and it doesn't bloat me... plus it contains casein mostly... probably not the best choice when trying to absorb as much as possible in as little time as possible.

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    the word on milk? it's white, cold, tastes good and it does the body good.

    uh oh, looks like tryska has something for billyboy here. hey guys, looks like the new guy is taking her away from us.

    *hands all the guys a trout and looks towards billy*


    LOL!
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    hercules......tuttut

    there will be no beatings of new guys on my watch. the beating cannot commence until a new upper/lower pec argument has been broached.
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    protecting the new guy huh? ok, i can handle that.

    i'm going to start a stupid argument here just for the fun of it, upper pecs are best hit after lower pecs to better get a pump.(i don't believe it but i thought it sounded funny)
    This is our current government keeping the peace.


    vote Edwards for president

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    i would advise against milk whilst cutting.
    It is a high calorie food and thus is good for bulking but not cutting.

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    nonfat dry milk and skim aren't high calorie...??

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    Originally posted by pastdoubt
    nonfat dry milk and skim aren't high calorie...??
    yes but they are loaded with sugars
    thus bad for cutting

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    I like Milk
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    They're slowly absorbed sugars.

    I drink ~2pints every day.

    It's really good and has a ton of glutamine.
    I drink skimed milk though but most of it is chocolate (artificially sweetened) milk.

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