The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    max OT + 2 days of sports per week = overtraining?

    Would a person lifting 5 days a week under the Max OT program, with the two rest days moved 3/4 days apart and used as sports days be overtraining? Something like 2-3 hours of basketball that makes you sweat nonstop for the entire duration. I also find it hard to both eat AND sleep big... it's usually eat big sleep 7 hours or sleep 8 and eat small.

    I'm not seeing as much gains as I want so I think overtraining might be an issue. (I also have mediocre genetics if at all.) IF overtraining is likely, is there any to modified the max-ot program, such as by making each "week" last 8 or 9 days instead? (Cutting out the sports days is not a possibility)

    Does it matter if rests days are back to back instead of slotted into the middle and end of the week?

    Thanks
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    I doubt it, read my journal, I have used an extremely high volume of exercise the past 5 months and have made great gains. The only supplement I have used is a multi-vitamin. Just eat whatever you can, and work hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SalahG
    I doubt it, read my journal, I have used an extremely high volume of exercise the past 5 months and have made great gains. The only supplement I have used is a multi-vitamin. Just eat whatever you can, and work hard.
    HI Sal... i noticed that you have light weight days and heavy weight days... I haven't heard that used before. I've heard that if you aren't overloading your muscles, you're only fatiguing it. Given the routine/set/reps are the same as heavy days but with less weight, isn't those light days just wasting time as per traditatioal wisdom?

    What kind of rest days do you have?--it's kind of hard to tell from the journal

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    I had a similar problem. AT worst you can cut the max ot down to 4 days no problem. I am familiar with max ot and this 4 day routine is actually recommended by them
    DAy 1: Legs
    Day 2: Back and triceps
    Day 3: Shoulders and biceps
    Day 4: Chest and abs

    This will give you one days full rest. I actually modofied my split down to three days with two rest days but i got on great with the above routine also. Just make sure you are etaing and sleepeing well. Make time for both

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    heehe that is a joke.....for the past 5 years ive lifted about 2 1/2 hours a day and done about 4 hours of hard sports every single day.....and i manage.....sleep cures everything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emjlr3
    heehe that is a joke.....for the past 5 years ive lifted about 2 1/2 hours a day and done about 4 hours of hard sports every single day.....and i manage.....sleep cures everything!
    Lifting 2.5h a day does not sound optimal... unless you are breaking it up into three sessions/day which is 21 sessions a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowFellow
    Lifting 2.5h a day does not sound optimal... unless you are breaking it up into three sessions/day which is 21 sessions a week
    1 hour in the morning.....then 1 1/2 hour in after noon...then a good 3-4 hours of sports afterwards

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    I'm sure it would be fine. My question is how does one extra hour of sleep prevent you from eating so much food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vido
    I'm sure it would be fine. My question is how does one extra hour of sleep prevent you from eating so much food?
    1. i've got lots of stuff to do
    2. i have horrible time managment
    3. = 1+2

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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowFellow
    1. i've got lots of stuff to do
    2. i have horrible time managment
    3. = 1+2
    Why are you on a 5 days a week program then? How about you take one of those days off and prepare food for the week? You won't grow if you don't eat.

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