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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    2004 Tour de Lance

    Go Lance! I'm sure not many of you are watching the Tour but I've been watching it everyday. Last 2 days have been intense to say the least. Hope Lance can pull it off in the mountains again.
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    I'm still upset at how high he ranked on the greatest athletes in history list. I mean really, he rides a bike!
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    Seriously. I mean, some of these "athletes" are just silly. If you're talking about the ESPN list...

    Come on now, Michael Jordan? Fooled around with a goddamn ball, we're talking tricks to amuse your friends and impress girls here. Jackie Joyner-Kersee? Ran around and jumped a bit. Barry Sanders? Give him an air filled piece of leather and tell him to run, and he'd do it. These aren't athletes either.
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    Lance is a great example of what an athlete should aspire to be like. I hope he wins again.
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    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    He's a cheater!!!!
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    I'm convinced that Lance isn't human.... but at least he's an AMERICAN inhuman!!! USA!
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    He is amazing. Probably the greatest competitor of all time.

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    He is a genetic freak (measured as having one of the highest VO2 max'es ever) and has the best work ethic in the world. Besides that, he's normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfLiberty
    I'm still upset at how high he ranked on the greatest athletes in history list. I mean really, he rides a bike!
    I guess it means nothing to win the Tour de France 5 times in a row after beating 3 forms of cancer. I'd like to see you bike 3391km in 20 days.
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    Great story. Impossible not to root for the guy. Although
    genetics probably play a big role, TRAINING is the key,
    plus a lot of heart to keep peddling when your thighs
    are killing you.

    It seems for all the rumors of doping, there is no evidence,
    and he's been tested and "observed" as much as any
    athlete in any sport. I think the allegations are sour
    grapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfLiberty
    I'm still upset at how high he ranked on the greatest athletes in history list. I mean really, he rides a bike!
    This is sarcasm, right?

    You should include a wink smiley to let people know when you're messing around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max-Mex
    Go Lance! I'm sure not many of you are watching the Tour but I've been watching it everyday. Last 2 days have been intense to say the least. Hope Lance can pull it off in the mountains again.
    I'm watching it, but sorry, I'm on for Ullrich.

    People wonder why I call myself Mr. T. One dude asked, 'does the T stand for tough?' I said no. Another dude asked if the T stands for my last name, Tureaud. No it does not. The 'T' in Mr. T stands for tuna. T loves tuna.

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    I'm not messing around. And before anyone gets in a hissy about it, I never once claimed he isn't an athlete, or that what he has accomplished isn't somewhat impressive(to some people). I am simply stating that I don't think he should have rated so high on the list.
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    Yes he should be rated high on the list. 5 time winner. That race is brutal, even with the help of a team or not. Hell, Miguel Indurain, Eddy Mercx (sp?) and the rest of the 5 time winners should be up there as well.
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    I haven't been able to watch it but I check the updates everyday and I get nervous doing so even this early in the tour. I think the changes they made to this years tour are lame as hell.

    Lance owns!

    That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfLiberty
    I'm not messing around. And before anyone gets in a hissy about it, I never once claimed he isn't an athlete, or that what he has accomplished isn't somewhat impressive(to some people). I am simply stating that I don't think he should have rated so high on the list.
    Alright, but who should be higher?
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    Maybe I went a little overborad mentioning Indurain and Mercx, but they still should be noted. Lance should definetly be up there due to the fact that he survived cancer and came back to a level that would have been near impossible. To top it off, he won the Tour 5 times. Sure he didn't beat cancer by himself, the medicine played a great part, but he had to deal with the enourmous strain that his medication was putting on his body.

    Yes cycling is probably not the most athletic sports, but to be able to do it a level like the Tour riders takes a lot of guts and discipline.
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    I think that list was limited to only athletes who are/were US citizens.

    I'd say if Lance is on an all time list of all the greatest then Indurain would certainly qualify too.
    Last edited by aidano; 07-08-2004 at 10:39 AM.

    People wonder why I call myself Mr. T. One dude asked, 'does the T stand for tough?' I said no. Another dude asked if the T stands for my last name, Tureaud. No it does not. The 'T' in Mr. T stands for tuna. T loves tuna.

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    Overcoming cancer is one thing, but overcoming several types and winning at an elite level is the stuff legends are made of.
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    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianHomer
    He's a cheater!!!!

    And by cheater do you mean blood doper by any chance?

    I donít know manÖ.I meanÖathletes competing in aerobic events practicing blood doping?

    What a crazy concept! What nonsense!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

    That sounds kind of unethical. Iím sure none of them do that. I mean, that would be like cheating...

    People who play professional sports or compete in bodybuilding shows are all natural, didnít you know that?!

    So what if some of the athleteís RBCs are drawn off and then reinjected a few days before the race. Since RBCs carry oxygen, the extra injected RBCs translate into increased oxygen carrying capacity due to higher hematocrit. This also translates into greater endurance and speed.

    But like I said, Iím sure no tight-speedo-alien-looking-helmet-wearing-bike-riding-athlete would ever do such a thingÖ

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleP
    All right, gentlemen, let the flames begin!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleP
    And by cheater do you mean blood doper by any chance?
    Unless he's been stocking piling that blood for months on end before the Tour, I doubt he's able to do that day after day after day. You did know the tour wasn't just a one day event, didn't you? Aside the fact that he's VO2 max is ungodly and could compete with even the highest blood doped fiend.
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    I don't really care about cycling at all, but I will argue that it's much easier to judge the calibre of an athlete in an individual sport, than a team sport. How many great players on team sports get traded, only to fade into mediocrity. Team sports you can't always quantify how much a good supporting cast is for the star athlete.

    Would Manning be so great if he didn't have Harrison to throw the ball too? Or Gretzky have as many points in the NHL if he didn't have stars on all sides to pass the puck to? Would Priest Holmes be a phenom without his great o-line? I think you get the point.

    In cycling, it's all on one guy to determine how he'll perform. There are no "role players" to support him.

    Oh, one last thing I'll edit in. The size of the sport, or spectator draw doesn't determine the greatness of an athlete either.
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    Actually, there are role players Petie. Cycling is very team oriented and more complicated than most would assume at first glance. Form, peaks, timing, rhythm, slipstream, etc.
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    Cycling is very much so a team sport!

    People wonder why I call myself Mr. T. One dude asked, 'does the T stand for tough?' I said no. Another dude asked if the T stands for my last name, Tureaud. No it does not. The 'T' in Mr. T stands for tuna. T loves tuna.

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