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    really ****ed up ankle

    i rolled my ankle horribly a few days ago, is it possible to snap any tendons or ligaments, forgot which one of those are the bone-holders.

    with a severe ankle rollage is it possible to snap any? i can stand on my ankle and stuff but its really bad swollen and like 50 shades of purple

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    Ligaments are stretched/torn when you sprain an ankle. It usually occurs on the lateral (outside) of the ankle where the ligaments connect the knobby part of the ankle (malleolus) to the foot. Right now it's probably too tender and swollen to test for the amount of ligament injury and joint instability, but you should be elevating the foot, not bearing weight on it. A few Xrays might be in order to rule out a fracture- see your doctor.

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    I actually tore a ligament in my ankle rolling it once in college. Went to the ortho and he advised not to have surgery unless I was playing college football or something like that (which I wasn't). So now, I have an ankle that I can sprain at any old time, even when walking on a flat surface - it sucks totally. I'm afraid to run, or even use the freaking diving board at a pool.

    I got the impression (at the time, which was probably 10 years ago) that ankle reconstructive surgery was not as common as knee surgery (had full anterior-cruciate reconstruction on both knees, so I know what that's all about). The foot is a pretty complex item, with plenty of little bones, ligaments, tendons and cartilage - not quite as straightforward as knee surgery (which has its' own issues, to be sure). Maybe things have advanced enough in 10 years that they won't balk on it...

    Regardless, definitely go to the doctor to have him check it out - maybe these days they aren't so shy about trying to fix you if you did tear something.
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    attica how did you roll your ankle so badly?

    im curious , how did it feel/look like when you did it maybe i can compare it to mine and determine if it is that bad. did you feel different when walking normal? like unstable perhaps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davor
    attica how did you roll your ankle so badly?
    It's really quite embarassing - I was walking home from a party quite zonked and took a shortcut through a construction site, um, in the rain and, ah, very dark. Not the best decision I've ever made. Can't quite remember the details, other than it hurt like hell and was swollen up like mad the next day. :-(

    Quote Originally Posted by Davor
    im curious , how did it feel/look like when you did it maybe i can compare it to mine and determine if it is that bad. did you feel different when walking normal? like unstable perhaps
    Not really - I can't tell any difference even now when I'm just walking. However, if I really look closely at it, I can definitely tell that it's much more "flexible" than my other foot. Hard to put into words, but easy to see. I can bend my foot towards the inside of my leg further than my good foot/ankle, and there is a gap or seam I can see under my skin right below that big knob on the outside of your ankle (malleolus). So I pretty much did exactly what Delphi described.

    To make matters worse, I had to start my summer job (at an iron foundry) 2 days after spraining it, so I taped it up and laced my boots tight, but I'm certain that didn't help anything...

    Ahhh, to be in college and convinced of my immortality again... ;-) Man, did I do some dumb stuff back then.

    On another note, my sister just sprained her ankle real bad (it turned all sorts of sick purple, black, blue, yellow colors), but she went to the ortho and he told her she didn't tear anything. Mine never got discolored (just really swollen), but I did tear something, so even if it looks super bad, it might not be.

    Best of luck - I certainly hope you didn't tear anything, because even if they do fix it, you'll be off your feet for quite a while, which will hurt any/all athletic activities. I'm pulling for ya!
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    Attica one of my friends did the exact same thing as you at a construction site...

    Im going to the doc on saturday, and im expecting bad news because my ankle feels really loose and i can kind of shift my leg sideways with my injured ankle. i cant do that kind of movement with my good ankle

    Could i ask you how is life with the torn ligament? does it prevent you from doing sports or any specific lifts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davor
    Im going to the doc on saturday, and im expecting bad news because my ankle feels really loose and i can kind of shift my leg sideways with my injured ankle. i cant do that kind of movement with my good ankle
    Well, I have to say that doesn't sound promising - but I'm real interested in hearing what the doc finds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davor
    Could i ask you how is life with the torn ligament? does it prevent you from doing sports or any specific lifts?
    Well, I guess I've just become used to it, so 99% of the time I don't even think about it anymore. However, like I said before, there are certain things that I just don't really do, like run, or any kind of jumping (diving, basketball, etc.). Although, I must admit, lately I've been thinking about getting back into jogging/running, just to see what happens. My only real concern is that I'll be 2 miles away from home with a sprained ankle... I really love to play tennis, so every now and then I throw caution to the wind and play, but it's always in the back of my mind.

    I tend to focus on low impact cardio (stationary/mountain biking, elliptical, swimming etc.) instead of the treadmill.

    As far as lifting goes, I haven't changed anything. Obviously, you'll want to stay off of it for a while (even if you haven't torn anything), but once it heals up, I can't think of any exercises that you'd want to stay away from. I squat, deadlift, etc. w/o any trouble because my feet don't move. I guess if you got sloppy on lunges maybe you could hurt yourself... I stay away from step aerobics.

    I've found that I tend to sprain when I'm shifting weight from one foot to the other, so if I'm doing something like lunges, I try to be real careful in the placement of my feet.

    The biggest problem I faced was that I let my knees and ankle become excuses for not doing things. That was bad - don't do that. You'll have to feel yourself out for things you can and can't do, but don't fall into that trap - it's deadly.

    Again, I'm really hoping you have just a bad sprain and no tearing, but it is possible to live a normal life even if you did tear something. Remember, the only thing that can TRULY stop you from doing what you want to do, is being dead.
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    When you roll your ankle bad like that you cant forget about the "inside" of the ankle. When you roll it you stretch and or tear the ligaments on the "outside" but at the same time conversely you compress the joint on the "inside" which can lead to complications far worse than a few sprained ligaments. Such as torn cartilage, bone spurs/chips etc.

    I rolled my ankle reallllly bad in a martial arts class at the beginning of the year and had a guy my size 6'4" 270 pushing down on me when it happened. I still havent graduate back to squats (leg presses) because of it. Every time i get down to 90 on a squat i get a really painful "clicking" sensation on the inside part of the joint. My doctor told me to get an xray and mri, and regardless of the results that i would need exploratory surgery. But im putting that off until its absolutely necessary.

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    Ever since I rolled my right ankle a long time ago, it has shown a perpensity for doing it much more easily. So, even if I did not tear a ligament, I definately stretched it to the point that it is permanently less able to provide proper strength against turning again. I am fine all the time except if I run on semi rugged terrain or walk into a rut or something like that, the damned thing just caves in and gives way.
    Seems like this happens once per year on average.
    Good protection if you know you are going to be running or walking somewhere that is definately not flat, wear boots which tighten around the ankles. In sports tape it really good.

    But if this is the first time you've injured it, I definately recommend seeing a specialist in seeking a way to avoid future complications.
    Last edited by zen; 07-17-2004 at 05:35 PM.

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    I did exactly the same kind of roll on my right ankle in a karate tournament once. My ankle rolled and I felt/heard two pops. About 20 minutes later the outside of my ankle looked like there was a tennis ball under the skin. I was still able to walk on it, but it was tender. THe next few weeks were interesting. I watched my ankle change to about 10 different colors, and the wierdest part of the whole ordeal was the pitting edema. Pitting edema is where you can press into the swollen area and leave a dent that doesn't raise for a number of seconds or up to a minute or two. That was pretty amusing. And I had the cavity below the "knob" of my ankle as well.

    The bad news is you probably at least partially tore a tendon or ligament. The good news is that you will probably be fine without any kind of radical medical treatment. I'm good as new now, although I do carry an ankle brace just in case I have a weak ankle day.

    Still go see your doctor and don't let the just blow it off as a sprain. Mine did that and I went to a specialist behind his back and found that it was a tendon and a ligament partially torn. That was the two pops that I felt and heard.
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    The doc checked me out and we took some X-rays...

    He did not find any broken or chipped bones. i definitely tore something because of all the bleeding, and im guessing it is a bad tear since i am getting bleeding even far above my ankle on the side of my leg, (about 3-4 inches above) the damn thing hurts like **** but i am going to let nature heal me and ill be good hopefully!

    btw i tore it while playing basketball i jumped bout 2 feet in the air then landed directly sideways on it.

    check out this website for a pic of it:
    http://m3bigboy.homestead.com/files/DSCN1700.JPG

    those hues are just great
    Last edited by Davor; 07-19-2004 at 01:47 AM.

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    lol

    That looks identical to my foot when I tore that tendon I was telling you about.

    Did you get pitted edema? The pitted edema was the best part... too bad it only lasted a couple days.

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    yes I do have the swollen thing you can poke!, my whole family plays with it

    i have actually had it for about a week now and it still is there, (but not so large) i must of ****ed it up pretty good to have the pitted edema there so long

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    heh, had the same thing happen to me in the army. it suxs!

    make sure that you train it up after it has healed though.

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