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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Regular bench press vs SMith machine bench press

    is there any difference in effects?

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    yes lack of stabilizers using smith machine
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    which will result in...

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    The regular BB bench will allow you to lift in a more natural groove where as the Smith machine forces you to lift in an un-natural groove which can result in injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardToSquat
    The regular BB bench will allow you to lift in a more natural groove where as the Smith machine forces you to lift in an un-natural groove which can result in injury.
    I prefer bench as i can press in my natural motion and do not have twist the weight back intot he rack.
    as for injury. well not to sure about that. though twisting the weight back into the rack does play havoc on my wrsit that could lead to increased risk of injury.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    you can use alot more weight with smith

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    It will result in less real world strength, as well as it becoming a more isolated exercise then compound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CiteCollegiale
    you can use alot more weight with smith
    are you sure if the smith machine has not got pully assiting it?
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    Smith macines are counter weighted so instead of the bar weighing 45 lbs it weighs about 15. I think they can have their place as a supplementory lift but freeweight bb bench should be a mainstay of most routines.
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    So if you were ever pushing on something really hard and your stabilizers were weak due to smith machine, you could seriously hurt yourself. Personally, I despise the smith machine.
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    benching on smith machine is pointless unless you have no spotter, but then why not just use dumbells instead?

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    The Smith machine has its place in bodybuilding but not necessarily for powerlifting Any resistance training with progressive overload should produce results. Those doing Dogg Crapp and other HIT type routines use it quite a bite since it easier to rest/pause using the Smith. The only exercise I would not recommend for the Smith is back squats since it can stress your back.
    Just one guy's opinion.

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    So if I were to slap 145 on a smith, and 145 on a BB and bench it, would one "feel" lighter than the other?
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    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

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    Yes.

    I can bench atleast 60 pounds more on the smith.

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    I personally think the ammount of weight for me will generally be the same, I actually found the smith harder, at first.

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    ^Yea same slosh.

    We'll just test our max in end august vs. our max at school.
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

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    I started benching on the Smith machine but have since "graduated" to the real thing. Note that in December, I had no experience lifting ever.

    I can't begin to tell you how much things have improved strength-wise whilst on the free bench.

    That said, you should do what works for you and your comfort level. I can only attest to personal experience.

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    some smith machines have pulleys,some dont
    also some smith like machines give a more natural feeling lift as they arent as tightly linear as other smith machines
    in my experience.

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    The only thing smith machines are good for is standing calf raises. Thats about it.

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    I hate going to the gym to see the guys who have a huge upper body and severly under developed lower body working on the smith machine to bench, and the sad thing is that they also have a spotter LMAO F#$KIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecliptic
    The only thing smith machines are good for is standing calf raises. Thats about it.
    Amen.

    I used to use them for shrugs as well.
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    Yeah I use them for shrugs as well.

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    put it this way i bench 230 on a regular bench and roughly 245-250 on a smith machine...and ye smith is good for shrugs

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    i think ectomorphs would find the smith up their lift more signifigantly than endo's an mesos, my reasoning being that the small/skiny arms and wrists spend more energy to stabalize the bar then they do for the other body types.
    that crazy theory having been stated...

    just do regular bench, its better all around.
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