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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Bicep Strength / Bicep Fatigue

    Back in early August 2004, I could hammer 30's about 6 reps with each arm. This was at the beginning of my workout.

    Since then, I have gotten my routine in order, and now I do bi's after back and traps. They are usually feeling totally dead by then.

    2 months later (now), I have only improved by 1 rep with each arm. My improvements everywhere else have been large, but not for bi's. At the rate the rest of my body gained at, I should be hammering 35's with 6 reps. But I am still doing 7x30s.

    Is it the fatigue on my biceps from doing 10-12 back sets that is resulting in this? Would that make sense?

    Or have I just plain not gained with bis?
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    Is it because of your forearms that you can't keep rep'ing it? Or is it your biceps that hold you back?
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    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    It's because of the back workout. Of course, your bis won't be able to lift as much after 10-12 sets of back, compared to when they are fresh.

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    Hmmm, not sure of yourn total workout m8, but personallly in cycling between a 6-8 rep range then folowed by a 8-12 rep range week to week. So i'm continually gaining (forced) of upto 1.5 kg per week.....

    Small steps = big gains in the long term i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vido
    It's because of the back workout. Of course, your bis won't be able to lift as much after 10-12 sets of back, compared to when they are fresh.
    I agree. You're baiscally comparing your fresh sets with sets that have been worn out after your back exercises. If you are able to lift more than you did before , I'm sure that you gained a lot in your biceps.
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    Why dont you try switching it up one week, and doing biceps on a deiffernt day than back.....see what happens?

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    This is why I don't train biceps with back. Try doing them with chest next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission
    This is why I don't train biceps with back. Try doing them with chest next time.
    I don't think that really matters though. If my bi's are worked due to back, and then I throw in 2-4 light sets, isn't that just as good as training them 6-8 sets on a non-back day?
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

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    I don't know, you tell me! Without doing a back workout, are you able to curl more? If so, there's nothing to complain about.

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    Its probably the back WO. You are working the biceps quite a bit with the rows I assume you are doing. If you really want to prove this to yourself then go to the gym on a rest day and do a few sets of w/e you do for bi's or just put them on a different day. After 2 months its not a bad thing to think about switching the routine up.
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    I understand what you're getting at, but in regards to the original question, take 1 week to see if your biceps have indeed grown....switching it up a week shouldn't hurt the routine too much and you'll know what kind of gains you have made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam[|O|]pson
    I understand what you're getting at, but in regards to the original question, take 1 week to see if your biceps have indeed grown....switching it up a week shouldn't hurt the routine too much and you'll know what kind of gains you have made.
    You biceps will not measurably grow in one week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    You biceps will not measurably grow in one week.
    He's not saying that. He's saying to take a week just to SEE if his biceps have grown. Not work them for a week to see if they will grow within that week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixationdarknes
    He's not saying that. He's saying to take a week just to SEE if his biceps have grown. Not work them for a week to see if they will grow within that week.
    My brain hurts from this convolution of logic.

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    "Back in early August 2004, I could hammer 30's about 6 reps with each arm."

    Next week, do your biceps on chest day....you should see some improvement.

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    i do my bi's on tuesdays
    and back on thursday

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